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CNN 'Sources': Paul Ryan Refusing to Compromise With Members On Obama Heathcare Replacement Bill
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Posted on 03/14/2017 11:47:43 AM PDT by drewh

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To: Owen

I’m with you.


81 posted on 03/14/2017 3:03:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Owen
Offer up your own text that can get past the Parliamentarian.

Cruz showed how to do that last week. Just have the VP overrule the parliamentarian.

82 posted on 03/14/2017 3:08:20 PM PDT by itsahoot ( The return of the Super Secret, Super Genius Plan of GW fame #136)
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To: itsahoot

That fails. That is the nuclear option. He can’t get 20 votes for that.

Next?


83 posted on 03/14/2017 3:10:00 PM PDT by Owen
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To: drewh

If there is a thread you do not want me to open, start it with ‘CNN’


84 posted on 03/14/2017 3:27:46 PM PDT by citizen (To hold with the #MSM description used by @POTUS, I am using #OppoMedia to refer to our biased media)
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To: Owen
if you want modifications and they can pass the Parliamentarian

Cruz said this week the VP can, as president of the senate simply overrule the parliamentarian.

85 posted on 03/14/2017 3:33:09 PM PDT by itsahoot ( The return of the Super Secret, Super Genius Plan of GW fame #136)
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Remind me again why Mr. Turmp supported Paul Ryan during his house speaker bid?

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/13/exclusive-audio-emerges-of-when-paul-ryan-abandoned-donald-trump-i-am-not-going-to-defend-donald-trump-not-now-not-in-the-future/


86 posted on 03/14/2017 3:54:07 PM PDT by Drago
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To: conejo99

That’s an amazingly generous blanket excuse for any behavior whatsoever, and very conveniently couched in terms that make any objective assessment impossible.

I’m guessing that holding representatives accountable for their actions in office isn’t a big thing for you.


87 posted on 03/14/2017 4:33:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: Owen

Ryan wants Trump destroyed? Ryan never ran against Trump.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ryan was a never Trumper. He is a memb er of the RINO club of the GOP: Romney/Bush/McCain.

Ryan would like nothing better than to stab Trump in the back, so Trump will not be re-elected in 2020.


88 posted on 03/15/2017 2:55:10 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: thoughtomator

You:”Ryan sure acts like a man who has received an enormously large bribe, doesn’t he?”
Me:”He acts like someone who’s only interest is maintaining the majority.”
You:”That’s an amazingly generous blanket excuse”
Or it’s an explanation of his behavior that helps you understand his actions, probable future actions, and what pressures might modify his behavior. Besides, accusing our leaders of only being interested in maintaining their majorities instead of using their majorities for positive change is hardly a complement.

Do you actually believe your conspiracy theory, or is it just hyperbole?


89 posted on 03/15/2017 6:19:30 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: conejo99

First, I think the problem here is that you don’t seem to understand that all of Washington DC runs on bribery. If you did, nothing about my statement would be even slightly controversial.

Second, your statement about Ryan’s alleged motives helps no one at all since it provides no basis whatsoever on which to predict his future actions. It is a semantically worthless assertion, that by its very nature cannot be verified.


90 posted on 03/15/2017 6:26:03 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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To: drewh

For once, I believe what CNN is saying.


91 posted on 03/15/2017 6:28:39 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: thoughtomator

If you believe the Republican leader is only interested in maintaining his republican majority, and thus his power, then you know that you can motivate him by helping or hurting his most at risk members. Losing his speaker-ship by a member vote is also, of course, a pressure point.


92 posted on 03/15/2017 6:33:28 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: conejo99

“If you believe the Republican leader is only interested in maintaining his republican majority,...”

... then you have an incredibly naive and limited outlook on what actually goes on in DC.

Washington DC is a bribery and embezzlement ring, and little else. All of us who have been there to see it operate firsthand know this to be true beyond any reasonable doubt.

Ryan, like almost all the others, works for his donors and not his constituents, and this industry-authored bill that threatens to shatter the GOP majority coalition is solid evidence thereof, and in direct contradiction to any pretense of more noble or widely shared objectives.


93 posted on 03/15/2017 7:21:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Purple: the color of sedition)
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