Posted on 04/01/2017 7:00:12 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever
hmmm. Good point. Worth investigating.
Agreed. The purge of all those who refused to blindly follow the god-emperor did not benefit this site. Too many here are following the cult of personality and abandoning principle to defeat Hillary. I am happy she was stopped, but am under no illusions about who we just elected. I suspect we elected someone close to Bill on ideology in order to block Hillary.
I’d say the primary responsibility lies there but not all of it. There really are #NeverTrumpers within the HFC, by my count about a third of their number. Their agreeing to vote in favor of what had been negotiated, then changing their minds at the last minute, “moving the goalposts,” was not a friendly gesture toward the Trump administration. It led to Trump calling for an up or down vote on that Friday, and Ryan pulling the bill soon after in order to avoid being personally embarrassed by the result of such a vote.
Not by my count
Mark Meadows - Yes
Jim Jordan - Yes
Justin Amash - No
Brian Babin - Yes
Joe Barton - Yes
Andy Biggs - Yes
Rod Blum - Yes
Dave Brat - Yes
Jim Bridenstine - Yes
Mo Brooks - Yes
Ken Buck - Yes
Warren Davidson - Yes
Ron DeSantis - Yes
Scott DesJarlais - Yes
Jeff Duncan - Yes
Trent Franks - Yes
Tom Garrett Jr. - Yes
Louie Gohmert - Yes
Paul Gosar - Yes
Morgan Griffith - Yes
Andy Harris - Yes
Jody Hice - Yes
Mike Johnson - Yes
Raúl Labrador - Yes
Alex Mooney - Yes
Gary Palmer - Yes
Steve Pearce - Yes
Scott Perry - Yes
Bill Posey - Yes
Mark Sanford - No
David Schweikert - Yes
Randy Weber - Yes
Ted Yoho - Yes
BTW, there were more liberal Republicans running away than conservatives when they pulled the bill.
You’re playing games and so is the Washington Examiner.
Those two are the NeverTrumpers.
Everyone else supported Trump for President.
Uh huh. And how about you? You were a Trump “supporter” too, right? Now look at you, just on this thread alone. The best hope we’ve had since Reagan and 70 days in all you can do is screech negativities.
I have been supporting Trump since September of 2015.
He is undoubtedly the best we had to choose from this cycle.
I have two areas of disagreement with him.
The healthcare bill was not “wonderful”, it was not repeal and in the case of opening up coverage for illegal aliens it made Obamacare worse. He joined up with the establishment RINOs who were against him from day one.
The other is his breaking his pledge on DACA. He said he would reverse all of Obama’s unConstitutional executive orders and he has left DACA operating as if it were law and not something dreamed up by Obama. It has no basis in law and is still not legal just because Trump keeps it going.
10,500 more illegal aliens have been given work permits and permission to stay since he took office.
Most everything else he has done has been terrific, but those two things.
Accentuate the positive and exercise patience with current, apparent negatives, then. The administration really is young, he’s facing unprecedented hurdles and challenges. I have no doubt he will be among the great Presidents, if he’s permitted to be. Adding fuel to the fire at this point does not help.
Tweeting against the Freedom Caucus was the fuel, I did not add it.
The Freedom Caucus screwed him after agreeing to negotiations. That merited the response that they got. Now, they’re back to the table. Stop nursing boo-boos and be an adult, for crying out loud.
The Freedom Caucus did not screw him, Ryan and the RINOs did.
More RINOs were bailing than conservatives opposed when the bill was pulled.
So backward looking. Why not look to the future and actually accomplish something rather than obstructing? The Freedom Caucus that you’re so determined to defend, as if they’re some weak little damsel in distress, is now doing so. Why can’t you?
I am hoping we can move forward to more conservatives in Congress, not fewer.
That is the swamp draining that needs to happen.
Uncooperative conservatives with their collective @sses on their shoulders demanding the perfection that they never get are always going to be bridesmaids and never a bride. Cooperation, negotiation and yes occasional compromise will get them to the goal line way before some mythical hail mary situation where they’ll get everything they’ve ever dreamed of, and demanding that or a no vote plays a major role in how we got to where we are today. Conservatives need to learn how to govern, not sit back while out of power and jerk the chains of their voters with symbolic votes on symbolic bills that they knew never stood a chance when they were written.
Never cared for the Millenial 5 second focus Twitter garbage. It has truly dumbed down public.
And, the NeverTrumpers are content to bark with fervor and lose election after election.
You guys will always be the glass-half-full types, anyway, so there’s not much hope the self-righteousness will ever get dropped and rational thought appear.
The gullible and too purist wouldn’t elect even the Founders today, if they were here and running for office. Look what’s happened with Reagan’s 80% Rule. Never enough.
There is no compromise with the Constitution. It is as black and white as it gets. This mantra called perfection wasn’t being sought and is a red herring argument against unconstitutional legislation. Conservatives don’t need to know how to govern. We got undeservedly so a blessing between 80 and 88 on how the formula works. I believe those wishing to replace unconstitutional legislation with unconstitutional legislation are the ones that need to check their conservative card at the door.
JR also agrees.
Alright then, lead the way to your Constitutional solution for the current nightmare of Obamacare.
I’m all ears and will eat crow when you succeed in getting this legislation to Trump’s desk for signing, and sign it he will.
Do it. I’m prepared to be very impressed. Seriously.
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