Posted on 04/05/2017 12:01:57 AM PDT by nickcarraway
Ok daddy,
What would your call be had the guy shot the intruder in the leg?
Just asking, not being critical,Thanks
Something here just doesn’t make any sense to me. Why would the guy continue showering through all this? Whether he was an intruder or just confused and at the wrong house, seems like he would have turned off the shower and gotten out when the owner left. At first I thought maybe the showering man was mentally retarded or maybe had Alzheimer’s, but the article said he was a teacher so he had to be mentally aware. Just seems unbelievable that he just continued showering. Makes me wonder if the whole story is a lie.
you cannot hang up a cell phone from a 911 call. but you can put it down. probably wise to cover the mic
I’ll just say I have mixed feelings about that one. We only have one witness.
Here’s what I suspect. When the owner entered the house the first time, he saw or heard something suspicious. It didn’t rise to the level of calling police, but he didn’t want to investigate further without a gun. Maybe he heard the shower, or saw something out of place. He left, got his gun, and came back to see what was going on. Then he was surprised by the guy in the shower, and panicked.
I read where he had been at a party, went for a walk and got all wet in the rain, then came back and got in the shower. So he may have been drunk, hung-over and got into the wrong house. He may have thought that the shooter was also staying at the house, and the deceased was pissed about the guy telling him to get out of the shower. “Go away, there will be plenty of water for you!”
Of course the homeowner the second time could have been perceived by the drunk as the one doing the “intruding”. One article said their were four houses in a row on this rural road (I used to rent a house like that - four homes on the old farmstead that at one time housed the four kids and their families). And someone surmised that the drunk made his way into the wrong home.
So the drunk could have met the actual owner and perceived him as a threat. Would make my idea of making a citizen’s arrest much more dangerous and complicated.
“Get out of my house! Or I’m making a citizen’s arrest.”)
“What do you mean YOUR house, this is my Aunt’s house - YOU get out!!”
Of course, you can hang up. Why couldn't you? Is there some law that requires you to stay on the line?
you cannot hang up a cell phone call to 911. The technology does not permit you to initiate the hang-up. Only 911 can hang up the call.
True.
Anyone with a firearm for self defense should read “In the Gravest Extreme” and/or take a training class in what is justifiable and what’s not. Its not that complicated, you can not be the aggressor, instigator, or re-initiate a conflict once contact has been broken. If you shoot someone without complete justification at best you will go to trial and spend a ton of money. At worst you are going to jail. The guy in Washington will almost certainly be prosecuted.
The problem is that the homeowner left to get a gun. That’s premeditation. If he’d had the gun on him to begin with that would be entirely different.
The lesson: If you cannot legally carry a gun you should have one in your home. Then when there’s an intruder in your home you don’t have to leave your home to get a gun and put your use of the gun on far less sound legal grounds.
Yep, that sounds FAR more credible.
Who’s to say the dude wasn’t hiding behind the shower curtain with a gun? Does the homeowner have the obligation to open the curtain to determine if the intruder is armed?
Some, yes. But the majority of comments on this case aren't in support of the defendant. Laws and enforcement vary from State to State, so you're going to get varied opinions based on individual circumstances and experiences. Lots of us are CCW card carriers and have taken required courses that spell out in sobering detail what can go wrong legally whenever one decides to use lethal force.
To all the bleeding hearts on FR: Any person usurping the property of another deserves waht they get, even be it death.
not on an old land line.
you cannot hang up a cell phone call to 911. The technology does not permit you to initiate the hang-up.
not on an old land line.
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True but they have your number and will call back.
Gun Sales Are Surging Among an Unusual Group
By
S. Noble -
April 4, 2017
Gun sales have slumped overall but there are some unusual groups buying guns who never bought guns before. Sales among minorities, women and LGBTs in particular have risen since the Pulse nightclub attack.
They are buying guns because they are fearful of attacks by Trump supporters though they really should be afraid of the Obama supporters, like the madman who shot up the Pulse nightclub.
Whatever it takes for people to realize they need to be responsible for themselves and not reliant upon government is likely a good thing.
http://www.independentsentinel.com/gun-sales-surging-among-unusual-group/
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