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To: brucedickinson

I’m a NYer and I agree with him.

Never liked lincoln. Still don’t

Throw starving Irish into the war straight off the boat but for 300 bucks, you’re SAFE! :)

sounds fair.


2 posted on 04/13/2017 7:04:17 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

Also a NYer and AGREED


6 posted on 04/13/2017 7:12:08 PM PDT by SquarePants (Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time)
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To: dp0622

Gee. I didn’t know so many Freepers have disdain for Lincoln. I’m stunned.............


12 posted on 04/13/2017 7:18:41 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dp0622

A great President who defended the Constitution from an unlawful rebellion.


22 posted on 04/13/2017 7:41:29 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: dp0622

There is a good book “Lies My Teacher Told Me” by Clyde N Wilson that covers a lot of these matters..


30 posted on 04/13/2017 7:45:46 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: dp0622

There is a good book “Lies My Teacher Told Me” by Clyde N Wilson that covers a lot of these matters..


31 posted on 04/13/2017 7:45:48 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: dp0622
The Union was never going to let the south secede. It was a non-starter from the beginning.

You're a NYer - put yourself in the position of leadership. Calif was a state; you knew the Panama isthmus would be breached; the rail system was already extending west; there were virgin resources (forests, coal, and oil) to be exploited.

In other words, if you were a forward thinker, you could foresee what was to USA become: a global empire.

Now, consider for a moment a founding document comprised of mere words. Who would enforce it? No one. Only retards and fools would think it had any standing. As usual, right comes down to might.

The Union had the power, and they used. The result is not only history, but the fantastically wealthy families that resulting from industrial consolidation.

History records the same tale over and over again: believers get hosed, realists take home the pot.

49 posted on 04/13/2017 8:17:41 PM PDT by semantic
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To: dp0622

I once heard someone argue - it wasn’t really a “Civil War.”

A Civil War is a struggle for control of the government of a country. The South had no interest in controlling the government of the USA. They simply wanted out.

As such, it was a suppression of an independence movement, or simply a war of conquest.


70 posted on 04/13/2017 10:46:09 PM PDT by PGR88
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