Posted on 04/25/2017 6:19:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
Sorry. I have a red line—abortion. Racism is a close second. (Of course, I’m referring to ACTUAL racism.)
Whatever you do, don’t let yourself be taken in by phonies like Spencer who make up stupid names like alt right.
Drop the term, that’s the best idea. Only morons on CNN use it.
If you believe Spencer supports Trump, then you know nothing about Spencer or Trump.
I’ve listened to an interview of Spencer, in the interview he denies Christ.
Wow, so many ignorant and cucky comments to respond to.
By reading the comments on this thread, I see mainstream Conservatism is still just as clueless and feckless as it's ever been.
Mainstream conservatism is pretty much irrelevant now, and will be a curious oddity in American politics in 20 or 30 years.
Conservatives haven't been fighting (and winning against) Antifa the past few months. That's mostly Alt Right and Alt Lite.
I can't remember Conservatives fighting back against Leftist thuggery at any time in my life.
Just one example.
But keep it up. Keep calling the very people actually successfully engaging the Left "Nazis" (just like the Liberals do).
Keep crying and whining that white people shouldn't pursue their interests.
The Alt Right and Alt Lite will continue to grow and win and cucked Conservatives will continue to become more and more irrelevant.
Free Republic is now Cuckservative headquarters.
Sorry. I have a red line—abortion. Racism is a close second.
And that's why Conservatism has lost for decades and will continue to lose.
The main goal of Conservatism now is fighting abortion and proving that "we're not rasicst!"
I fully expect #BlackLivesMatter to have a yearly appearance at CPAC starting about 10 years from now.
Apparently most people on this forum still haven't discovered how to do an internet search yet and are still confused about the "Alt Right."
Here are the 16 Point of the Alt Right from one of it's leading thinkers, Vox Day:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html
1. The Alt Right is of the political right in both the American and the European sense of the term. Socialists are not Alt Right. Progressives are not Alt Right. Liberals are not Alt Right. Communists, Marxists, Marxians, cultural Marxists, and neocons are not Alt Right.
2. The Alt Right is an ALTERNATIVE to the mainstream conservative movement in the USA that is nominally encapsulated by Russel Kirk's 10 Conservative Principles, but in reality has devolved towards progressivism. It is also an alternative to libertarianism.
3. The Alt Right is not a defensive attitude and rejects the concept of noble and principled defeat. It is a forward-thinking philosophy of offense, in every sense of that term. The Alt Right believes in victory through persistence and remaining in harmony with science, reality, cultural tradition, and the lessons of history.
4. The Alt Right believes Western civilization is the pinnacle of human achievement and supports its three foundational pillars: Christianity, the European nations, and the Graeco-Roman legacy.
5. The Alt Right is openly and avowedly nationalist. It supports all nationalisms and the right of all nations to exist, homogeneous and unadulterated by foreign invasion and immigration.
6. The Alt Right is anti-globalist. It opposes all groups who work for globalist ideals or globalist objectives.
7. The Alt Right is anti-equalitarian. It rejects the idea of equality for the same reason it rejects the ideas of unicorns and leprechauns, noting that human equality does not exist in any observable scientific, legal, material, intellectual, sexual, or spiritual form.
8. The Alt Right is scientodific. It presumptively accepts the current conclusions of the scientific method (scientody), while understanding a) these conclusions are liable to future revision, b) that scientistry is susceptible to corruption, and c) that the so-called scientific consensus is not based on scientody, but democracy, and is therefore intrinsically unscientific.
9. The Alt Right believes identity > culture > politics.
10. The Alt Right is opposed to the rule or domination of any native ethnic group by another, particularly in the sovereign homelands of the dominated peoples. The Alt Right is opposed to any non-native ethnic group obtaining excessive influence in any society through nepotism, tribalism, or any other means.
11. The Alt Right understands that diversity + proximity = war.
12. The Alt Right doesn't care what you think of it.
13. The Alt Right rejects international free trade and the free movement of peoples that free trade requires. The benefits of intranational free trade is not evidence for the benefits of international free trade.
14. The Alt Right believes we must secure the existence of white people and a future for white children.
15. The Alt Right does not believe in the general supremacy of any race, nation, people, or sub-species. Every race, nation, people, and human sub-species has its own unique strengths and weaknesses, and possesses the sovereign right to dwell unmolested in the native culture it prefers.
16. The Alt Right is a philosophy that values peace among the various nations of the world and opposes wars to impose the values of one nation upon another as well as efforts to exterminate individual nations through war, genocide, immigration, or genetic assimilation.
The Alt Right is a Western ideology that believes in science, history, reality, and the right of a genetic nation to exist and govern itself in its own interests.
Baloney.
Abortion is an atrocity, and as long as it is “legal,” we have no Constitution and our government is a mafia. If you tolerate the exclusion of some people from the human race and protection from homicide, you will eventually find yourself in a gas chamber.
I don’t waste time with “proving” anything about “racism.” But Spencer is an ACTUAL racist. He simply deserves to be a pariah.
I never said he doesn’t support Trump.
I don’t CARE whether he supports Trump or not. He’s pro-abortion. That alone makes him a diabolical sociopath who is not a member of Western Civilization.
Hard right are anti Semite.....were always Nazis and they are pure of motive
Liberal Jews or other progressives always and I mean always say this
They've even tossed it at Trump over and over
Liberal Jews cannot be criticized for what they do except by other Jews and that's another can of worms
Academia and print media is littered with the careers of those who had the temerity to call a spade a spade here
It's about any pet left group
Criticize blacks you're a racist
Homos you're a homophobe
On and on
I have no idea who this’ll guy is
I tell you one thing evangelicals in particular love to virtue signal over anti semitism
Trust me liberal Jews do not detest them any less for it
This is just how it is
Sorry
Aside from black liberation crap and muzzies there is almost no anti semitism anywhere else here anyway
Ok...I'll make a statement
I think Harvey Weinstein and other liberal Jews in Hollywood make movies on purpose that denigrate traditional Christian America and do it repeatedly
I think they influence writers for the message they want and I think their peers in media and academia are not much different
Now does that make me anti Semite despite my affection for Israelis or support of Netanyahu?( I do not see Israelis a some sort of Armageddon good luck charm...they are just good folks in a bad neighborhood)
Who's the real bigot...it's painfully obvious to me that the average liberal Jewish Hollywood mogul detests most of what i believe in
I refuse to be blind and nor will I get distracted over the lefts smears
I don't know anyone who believes the holocaust never happened or Jews deserve to die
But I ain't blind to what I see....
If you ponder being called anti Semite frequently maybe you ought to think about that and learn to quit reacting to how they shut us up thru language ownership....politely suggested....get yourself a pet....a green frog
I volunteer....
Actually I’m mad at her cute dumb ass
I’d think a more conservative view than most American conservatives, like one you ascribe to Bannon, would be better served by the word ultra right. As for alt-right, I believe its association with Spencer puts him outside the pale for anyone not obsessed with race. The article is very good as it exposes Spenser’s views in a way that prove they’re not in anyway compatible with American conservatism.
Rubbish. I bet you’d have sided with the anti-democratic forces in the 1930s for the volk! LOL.
well, bye.
That’s great that you have a red line, but the fact is that Trump would have never gotten to sign the defunding international abortion bill if he weren’t elected (because we know what Hillary would have done). Trump needed both Christians and non-Christians voting for him in order to get elected as it was a close election.
The result of people having a red line and attacking Trump voters that don’t think exactly like them — more dead babies. You may have a red line, but the goal isn’t to make you feel righteous and high and proud of your being pals with Jesus.
The goal is to save babies, and if you have to lie like the Egyptian midwives (who weren’t believers of the God of Israel), or if we need help from non-Christians, I’m willing to get whatever help to save babies — not proclaim some red line while in actuality babies get lost. Comprende? It’s a little difficult if you haven’t finished Christianity 101.
The alt-right, no matter who thinks or offers themselves as part of it, is not a monolithic block of folk all subscribing to the same views on every issue. To take one of them, and attach his view to all of them, merely (a) misses they are not a uniform block and (b) wrongly smears those among them that do no share the views of the person you are opposing.
Take individuals, always, and either appreciate or oppose their views. That is more important than any social or political labels.
alt-right is BS, the same as “far right”.
At any rate, read Spencer’s book ‘Onward Muslim Soldiers’.
I never associated Spencer with Bannon or Milo, and I never assume that anybody the Left says is a racist-bigot-fascist, is one (because that would include me and everyone here.)
What condemns Richard Spencer is not the words of Antifa or BLM, but the words of Richard Spencer.
Find me anyplace where he repudiates the vile pagan racialism and eugenicism which he espouses practically every time he opens his mouth.
“Oft thought but ne’er so well expressed.” Thank you for your comment.
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