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Chief Justice Roberts “Swimming In the Middle"
Legal Insurrection ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 06/27/2017 7:03:57 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Appearing on today’s Morning Joe, law professor Jonathan Turley noted that Chief Justice John Roberts teamed with Justice Anthony Kennedy to devise an exception to the Court’s ruling of yesterday that permitted President Trump’s travel ban to remain in place. Under the exception, the ban does not apply to foreign nationals with a “bona fide” relationship with a person or entity in the United States.

Turley said that as of late, Roberts has been “swimming a lot in the middle of the pool,” has become very Anthony “Kennedy-like,” and would become the new swing vote should Kennedy retire.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthonykennedy; johnroberts; jonathanturley; scotus
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
...in Politicks the Middle Way is none at all. If We finally fail in this great and glorious Contest, it will be by bewildering ourselves in groping after this middle Way.

John Adams to Chief Justice John Rober.... err... I mean Horatio Gates.

41 posted on 06/27/2017 7:56:21 AM PDT by C210N
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To: RummyChick
-- I dont know if there were many dissents here when Roberts was picked. I remember mostly positive posts --

You remeber right. There was some concern, because Roberts appeared to have deliberately left no tracks with which to judge his leaning. But that concern was out of the mainstream.

42 posted on 06/27/2017 7:57:27 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Lurkinanloomin

What a disappointment most of the Bush appointments have turned out to be.

Not so sure this was by accident.


43 posted on 06/27/2017 7:59:13 AM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: Drew68

and if that is his warped philosophy- then he has no business being on the panel- people should not get what they ‘voted for’ when those they vote for violate our constitutional rights- Never before in our history has the government been able to violate our inalienable right to be free from government tyranny in the form of being forced to purchase something against our will- before the abominationcare- man was free to go through life never paying a thing- He could, in extreme cases, go completely off grid and not be a criminal- He could live off the land- make his own clothes, eat from the wild etc and he was not forced to purchase healthcare or face a fine for not doing so

Now along comes a tyrannical president who thinks we are NOT free to live freely if we so choose- who LIES about what is allowed in the constitution, and along comes a SC ‘conservative judge’ who backs up that lie and does his own deceiving to get it passed- Now man is violating the law if he chooses not to get healthcare and must pay a fine for refusing- our inalienable rights have been violated and a ‘conservative judge’ thinks that’s just peachy? Simply because ‘that/’;s what the people voted for’? Sorry- but no- the people did not vote to have their constitutional rights violated-


44 posted on 06/27/2017 8:02:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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Roberts probably supports open borders. He ruled against the Arizona Law.


45 posted on 06/27/2017 8:03:34 AM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Jamestown1630
-- So, is someone just trying to make it LOOK like they've done some "reining in"? --

I think so, yes. SCOTUS is playing along with the simplified and false reality used in press reports and accepted by "the crowd," for political points.

I'd have to refresh my memory on the opinions below, to see the extent to which section 3 of the EO was even allowed to be in play.

I also notice that SCOTUS didn't disparage the rationale used by the courts below, which amount to the EO being unconstitutional because it was issued by Trump. The same EO would have been constitutional if issued by a different president. I notice that SCOTUS avoided remarking on this rationale.

46 posted on 06/27/2017 8:06:47 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: All

Roberts. The NSA information about his secrets, given to those who have taken over DC, is being used very effectively to _guide_ his decisions on important matters.

What an illegal judger, coward and traitor to his country he has become.


47 posted on 06/27/2017 8:11:15 AM PDT by veracious (UN = OIC = Islam ; Democrats may change USAgov completely, just amend USConstitution)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Somebody always is the swing vote.

Let say the senate had confirmed Garland. Then he, Garland, would be the swing vote:

Sotomayor - Ginzburg - Kagan - Breyer - GARLAND - Kennedy - Roberts - Alito - Thomas

But, with Gorsuch, the middle is Kennedy (or maybe Roberts) (the prior court, with Scalia would be restored)

Sotomayor - Ginzburg - Kagan - Breyer - KENNEDY - Roberts - Alito - Gorsuch - Thomas

Image that Trump replaces Ginzburg and Kennedy:

Sotomayor - Kagan - Breyer - Roberts - ALITO - Gorsuch - Trump II - Trump III - Thomas

It is possible Alito becomes the swing vote. With a second term, we could have a court looking like this:

Sotomayor - Kagan - Roberts - Alito - GORSUCH - Trump II - Trump III - Trump IV - Trump V

With Gorsuch, or somebody like him, being the swing vote, and nine members of the court being relatively young.


48 posted on 06/27/2017 8:11:55 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Bob434
and if that is his warped philosophy- then he has no business being on the panel- people should not get what they ‘voted for’ when those they vote for violate our constitutional rights

Right or wrong, Robert's rulings have fairly consistently demonstrated his belief that it is not the Supreme Court's job to save us from ourselves.

49 posted on 06/27/2017 8:12:11 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68
Except that in every state where marriage was on the ballot, gay marriage was voted down.

-PJ

50 posted on 06/27/2017 8:17:34 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Wallace T.
will the likes of Murkowski, McCain, Graham, etc., get a bout of "conscience" and oppose the nomination?

People like McCain and Graham have always said that Presidents deserve their nominees. That's why Graham tended to vote Yes on Obama nominees.

I would hope that they are consistent in their words and deeds and support the President's right to nominate over preserving a status quo on the Court.

-PJ

51 posted on 06/27/2017 8:21:53 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Reagan had a couple of doozies too, with Kennedy and O’Connor. The Supreme Court should have been rock solid conservative for decades, if republican presidents had made better appointments.


52 posted on 06/27/2017 8:26:59 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Drew68

which is a typical liberal position and why i stated he isw leaning heavily left- He feels the constitution is just a suggestion, not a law or document that protects us from rogue governments who think they have a right to violate our inalienable rights- Our constitution is supposed to be our last line of defense against a rogue government, and roberts apparently doesn’t think it’s his job to protect us from a rogue government? He has no business being on the supreme court if that is his position


53 posted on 06/27/2017 8:27:50 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Steamburg

Yes. At minimum, we need to know what the blackmail is and neutralize it. He’s damaged goods.


54 posted on 06/27/2017 8:31:38 AM PDT by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: Drew68
Hypothetical: If Obama had decided to run for a third term and dared Republicans to stop him, and if the media were behind Obama's run because of "popularity," and if he were to be sued on the grounds that his run violates the 22nd amendment term limit, would Roberts vote to support Obama's run on the grounds that it's not the Supreme Court's job to save us from ourselves, or would Roberts assert the 22nd amendment and stop a third Obama run for President?

Obviously, we could never know, but this is what "saving us from ourselves" looks like when up against an actual Constitutional protection.

In the case of ObamaCare, Roberts decided 1) that it was a tax even though the government argued that it was NOT a tax so he could keep the individual mandate, and 2) to ignore the origination clause since, as a tax, it originated in the Senate and not the House (unless stripping the entire contents of a House bill and treating it as a simple container for a Senate amendment containing an entirely new bill is constitutional).

That is also what saving us from ourselves looks like to Roberts.

-PJ

55 posted on 06/27/2017 8:34:16 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: McGavin999

That’s why we need 2 more, not one. Replace Kennedy and one of the libs and it’s game over. No more swing vote, so whoever is inclined to be the swing vote will naturally want to be on the majority and all the votes will be 6-3. Some of the libs might even get tired of always losing, and we would get lots of 7-2 votes.


56 posted on 06/27/2017 8:36:48 AM PDT by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“swimming a lot in the middle of the pool,”

Eventually he’ll find that to be much like being in the middle of the road. Nothing there but dead skunks and a yellow stripe.


57 posted on 06/27/2017 8:38:56 AM PDT by t4texas (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Alito has been a good solid Constitutionalist.


58 posted on 06/27/2017 8:43:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Political Junkie Too

My apologies. The “in-transit” is covered by long-established precedent. No ex post facto laws, and all that. I should have been more explicit in that I was thinking of the “close family member” and “accepted student” exemptions. How does the U.S. know that your cousin, recently accepted by the University of What’s Happening Now isn’t a jihadi? The founder of AQ was a student in Colorado when he self-radicalized.


59 posted on 06/27/2017 10:33:08 AM PDT by Pecos (A Constitutional republic shouldnÂ’t need to hold its collective breath in fear of lawyers.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Souter lite, about 3. But we’re still counting on Kennedy to bail, and for God to call Ruth home before 2019 ends.


60 posted on 06/27/2017 10:35:12 AM PDT by DPMD
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