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GUNS and AMMO: Why California gun owners may be breaking the law on July 1
SAC BEE (archive) ^ | June 27, 2017 | BY RYAN SABALOW

Posted on 06/27/2017 7:13:27 AM PDT by johnk

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To: From The Deer Stand

Have you ever been to CA?


21 posted on 06/27/2017 7:47:35 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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At this point I fear court challenges will only continue to chip away at the 2nd. The SC leaving the 9th ruling on conceal is ominous.


22 posted on 06/27/2017 7:50:24 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: johnk

And to think, back in 1982 the voters of California REJECTED Prop 15 to register and ban new handguns in the state.
So the politicians have been working overtime trying to find little ways around the will of the people, one little nibble at a time. So they went after rifles.
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_15,_Handgun_Registration_Initiative_(1982)

Since large capacity magazines were legal at that time they should still be legal.


23 posted on 06/27/2017 7:51:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Too funny. All my Glock 19’s have 15 round mags. If I lived in Cal and complied you’d only be able to chamber one round. Too funny.


24 posted on 06/27/2017 7:53:00 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learners permit.)
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To: lacrew

Years ago, when California first proposed a rifle ban, their act also included old lever action rifles holding more than ten rounds along with so called “assault rifles”.
The act was so unpopular it was shelved.
Then the state released Pat Purdy from a mental institution, allowed him to get through waiting periods for firearms, then he shot up the school in Stockton.
The gun ban was quickly brought out an passed (without the lever action ban)before any opposition could be mounted against it.
Now “they” are back for another anti-gun bite!


25 posted on 06/27/2017 7:58:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: BBB333

It will take a brave person.


26 posted on 06/27/2017 8:00:23 AM PDT by samtheman (The Germans -- having failed twice -- have finally hit on a way to destroy The West.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“...Don’t assume that you will never, ever have an angry, vengeful woman in your home...”


Proverbs 21:9 (KJV)

It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house.


Proverbs 21:19 (KJV)
“It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman.”


See the founders knew this and protected our rights even from “angry” women. They also were well aware of these types of ladies.

Today, it’s wicked, ungodly men we have to fear.

Spineless, cowardly, feminine, cuckolding traitors who have taken even those most basic rights.


27 posted on 06/27/2017 8:12:18 AM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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Also from the article...

The magazine ban isn’t the only pending law California’s gun owners face under the new gun regulations.

Starting in January, Californians who want to buy ammunition online or through catalogs will have to ship their purchases through a licensed dealer. In July 2019, ammunition buyers will have to undergo background checks at retailers.

Of course this only applies to law abiding citizens, gangs and criminals can still but their guns and ammo black market.

28 posted on 06/27/2017 8:12:18 AM PDT by CodeJockey (I don't have a license to kill, but I do have a learners permit.)
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Well, fair is fair. If gun owners are restricted to ten round magazines, then politicians must be restricted to ten word bills, and ten word answers at press conferences. Of course, no high capacity contractions, or acronyms either!


29 posted on 06/27/2017 8:16:13 AM PDT by ferret_airlift
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To: BenLurkin

Yep.

But the left don’t need no stinkin’Constitution.


30 posted on 06/27/2017 8:18:07 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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Hey freepers! I Will be breaking the law July 1st. Happy 4th of July! FU JERRY BROWN!


31 posted on 06/27/2017 8:21:35 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: samtheman

“... Someone needs to volunteer to be the test case to go to the supreme court ...”


I have thought about this myself with many of these issue we get beat up on.

Seems like this would be a good solution to many of our problems. The liberals do it all the time, seems to work wonders for them.


32 posted on 06/27/2017 8:33:49 AM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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To: Celerity
I would be hopeful for a Trump interaction here, but Trump has shown no signs of honoring his 2nd amendment promises.

Neil Gorsuch is a fine example of Trump honoring his 2A promises.

When I read the dissent on Peruta I can easily see how the 2A will greatly benefit from President Trump. 2 more Justices are likely ours in Trump's term(s). This will tilt the Supremes toward gun rights.

Swamps don't get drained in a day...

33 posted on 06/27/2017 8:42:41 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: From The Deer Stand
There is NO point in living in California. Get out while you can!

DW and I retired to Oregon, taking a fair amount of pensions (and the taxes on them) with us.

Despite its liberal politics, Oregon is a lot more gun-friendly than CA. Shall-issue, no roster, no mag restrictions, etc.

34 posted on 06/27/2017 8:45:40 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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But they sure regulate us with new laws IMMEDIATELY, don’t they ?


35 posted on 06/27/2017 8:48:58 AM PDT by Celerity
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“What a bizarre law, which compels a person to pro-actively destroy private property, with no compensation.”

“[N]or shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” 5th amendmen


36 posted on 06/27/2017 8:53:08 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Regulator

“... Two of them can credibly have their “citizenship” questioned: de Leon and Lara. Both are the children of illegals. Proud of it too... “


Twilight Zone music playing in my head again... enter Rod Serling.


37 posted on 06/27/2017 8:53:45 AM PDT by johnk (faithful with little....)
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If you are CAUGHT, shoot the guy who CAUGHT you eleven times.


38 posted on 06/27/2017 9:19:11 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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But the right volunteer, with the right connections and the right financial backing should be able to do ok all the way to a supreme court vindication or a Trump pardon.

Where the hell are the NRA, GOA, etc. on this? It's their job to finance resistance to illegal gun laws, isn't it? (crickets)

39 posted on 06/27/2017 9:22:09 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Building the Wall! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: johnk

Twilight Zone it is.

But I don’t hear anyone on this forum or in the national media talking about the fact that California is now governed by people we can credibly call enemy aliens (recall we have had two wars with Mexico).

Where’s the Big Bad NSA? The CIA? The FBI?

Aren’t they supposed to prevent things like this?

Apparently their sole and real reason for existing is to spy on Republican party candidates and officeholders.

Little things like the citizens of the country next door simply walking in and declaring themselves the new owners is beyond these agencies.

Life ends West of Dulles for them.

So yes, we’re in a surreal space now.

The current SCOTUS finally woke up and wrote something resembling a logical conclusion yesterday, so they must be worried that their Alice Through The Looking Glass judiciary is started to look bad in historical terms. Maybe they could redeem themselves a bit more by cogitating on why they think that the Americans should be ruled by non-Americans running around proclaiming themselves to be Jorge Washingtoon and his buddy Tomas Hefferson incarnate.


40 posted on 06/27/2017 9:41:09 AM PDT by Regulator
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