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The article sets the premise that information from a foreign source is against election campaign laws and then demolishes the premise and explains why information sharing about candidates is essential to the election process.
1 posted on 07/16/2017 9:20:22 AM PDT by JayGalt
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To: JayGalt

In a country that doesn’t have Freedom of Speech, ya’ betcha.


2 posted on 07/16/2017 9:22:52 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I bought a house on a one-way street that's also a dead end and now I can't leave.)
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To: JayGalt

Darn good analogy.


3 posted on 07/16/2017 9:23:00 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: JayGalt

Wait a minute. A sensible and fair article from the Washington Post? What’s going on here?


4 posted on 07/16/2017 9:25:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: JayGalt

Only if your last name is Trump or you are employed by someone whose last name is Trump.


5 posted on 07/16/2017 9:27:11 AM PDT by chris37 (Donald J. Trump, Tom Brady, The Patriots... American Destiny!)
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To: JayGalt

Same old story with libs:

Do as I say, not as I do.

rwood


6 posted on 07/16/2017 9:33:20 AM PDT by Redwood71
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Its a crime when conservatives do it.

When the deep state and media due it in the service of progressive, statist American oligarchs, its called “good governance.”


8 posted on 07/16/2017 9:38:08 AM PDT by PGR88
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There is yet another "overlay" or "conspiracy theory construct" for this entire saga and specifically the "DJTrump Jr" episode.

First, we have the idea that the Russians "interfered" with our election. Exactly whom "the Russians" refers to is not entirely clear. Additionally and importantly, whether or not the Russians (in whatever form) interfered with the election has not the slightest thing to do with which candidate they (in whatever form) might have preferred to win. It could also be that the Russians (in whatever form) simply wanted to sow chaos; juvenile delinquent style. So far I have seen essentially nothing in terms of evidence that would help to resolve these distinctions.

To me, there are at least 4 possibilities for Russian interference, all of them ABSOLUTELY INDEPENDENT of which side they might have wanted to win:

1: It ("the Russians") could refer to a specific agency or entity within the Russian government. Hired by Putin, directed by Putin or a government minister within the Putin regime/government. Eg; the KGB or the GRU or some other entity that was specifically set up to target the 2016 election.

2: It could refer to a small group of operators hired by one or more oligarchs associated with the country of Russia. It is said that these oligarchs are "by definition" part of the government because Putin has jailed or confiscated the assets of these guys, one of whom Khodorevsky (sp?) was the one who somehow acquired most of Russia's oil production in the wake of the collapse of the USSR circa 1989ish. Thus they have been absorbed by the Russian Borg and are now "the same". In the typical way in which Americans like to encapsulate their thinking into McNugget sized pieces, these guys are sometimes referred to as "the Russian mafia" yet at the same time they are pictured as "part of the Russian government" which means the Russian government is a form of mafia, and if this is the case, then this possibility #2 is about the same as possibility #1. Fair enough.

3: It could be an ad hoc gaggle of 2-6 hackers who would otherwise be stealing credit card numbers or trying, as hackers do, to penetrate anything they can as "exploits" just for the thrill and challenge of seeing whether they can do it. If indeed the specific true nature of the "Russian interference" is the penetration and dissemination of the information and emails etc; they found on the DNC servers, then this effort need not have been a giant multi-agency effort. It could literally be a couple of guys working in their apartments. It absolutely could. If these same actors were able to breach Trumps' campaign servers, we have not the slightest idea of whether they would have copied WikiLeaks with exactly the same thing as they (assumedly) did with the Clinton servers.

The above possibilities, once again, are independent of a HRC v. Trump bias the actors/hackers might have had. Just because Trump won does not mean they were in favor of Trump. By no means. .

4: The last possibility is that HRCs' servers were breached by Bernie supporters furious at the way he was aced and extorted out of the whole election. Even with this possibility, the motivations behind the breach > leak are not clear. Was/were the disgruntled Bernie fan(s) who did this wanting to throw their support behind Trump or was their intention to vandalize and sabotage HRC?

But as far as the Trump Jr. episode is concerned, the offer of compromising (oppo) information on HRC allegedly that was the "bait" for DJT Jr. made by the Russian honeypot gal might have been done CLUMSILY ON PURPOSE with the specific intention of getting found out and thus backfiring on the Trump campaign! Which is kind of how it is working out, is it not? After all, the Russians know now; they may have known less at that point; that most anything inside the Trump campaign was leakable since it was being surveiled by the 0bama State Department and THAT department was riddled with eager leakers. So as far as I am concerned, even if this episode is shady in terms of showing a "willingness to collude" (which I think is BS but we no longer have any particular distinction between BS and reality) it could have been done as a DELIBERATELY PLACED LANDMINE to BLOW UP inside the Trump campaign. Which would by definition favor HRC.

13 posted on 07/16/2017 10:51:28 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Apoplectic is where we want them!)
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To: JayGalt

The hollering over Russia obscures the fact Hillary got dirt on Trump from Ukraine...

Its not yet a crime to get information from foreign nationals and it isn’t treason.

Fake news media hyperventilating not withstanding, Don Jr. acted within the bounds of the law.

And we still have freedom of speech and freedom of association in this country.

All of this is a nothingburger.


16 posted on 07/16/2017 11:11:26 AM PDT by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever))
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In the USA airports all show CNN. Here's what's seen in the airport in Moscow:





Pics complements of Rachel Palermo's Twitter where she says: "As a DNC hack survivor I have a lot of thoughts about my layover in Moscow, but the most appalling part was @RT_com's official advertising"

22 posted on 07/16/2017 11:35:55 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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In the USA airports all show CNN. Here's what's seen in the airport in Moscow:





Pics complements of Rachel Palermo's Twitter where she says: "As a DNC hack survivor I have a lot of thoughts about my layover in Moscow, but the most appalling part was @RT_com's official advertising"

23 posted on 07/16/2017 11:45:27 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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I will post this question until my fingers hurt: What is / are the federal criminal statutes violated by anyone in the Trump campaign?

Not one “bombshell” article references a federal statute.

And this sh!t has been going on for over a year.

Pray our country doesn’t see CWII.

5.56mm


24 posted on 07/16/2017 12:00:55 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JayGalt

I will post this question until my fingers hurt: What is / are the federal criminal statutes violated by anyone in the Trump campaign?

Not one “bombshell” article references a federal statute.

And this sh!t has been going on for over a year.

Pray our country doesn’t see CWII.

5.56mm


25 posted on 07/16/2017 12:03:53 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: JayGalt

Whith open borders there are no foreigners.


26 posted on 07/16/2017 12:10:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition on mobile dev. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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Like when one of our administrations uses our intelligence assets to liaison NATO member governments intelligence assets to gather information on opposition candidates?


27 posted on 07/16/2017 12:33:41 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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“Foreigners who aren’t U.S. citizens or U.S. permanent residents, the argument goes, are barred from providing candidates any “thing of value” in connection with any American election campaign.”

Wasn’t one of the “Russians” (ex KGB guy) at the meeting a US Citizen?


29 posted on 07/16/2017 1:01:13 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make lemonade.)
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To: JayGalt

“Foreigners who aren’t U.S. citizens or U.S. permanent residents, the argument goes, are barred from providing candidates any “thing of value” in connection with any American election campaign.”

Wasn’t one of the “Russians” (ex KGB guy) at the meeting a US Citizen?


30 posted on 07/16/2017 1:01:45 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Make lemonade.)
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Democrats/Media: Look, it’s very simple. If someone was trying to hurt Hillary Clinton’s chance of being elected it was a criminal act. If someone was trying to hurt Donald Trump’s chance of being elected, well, that’s just how the game is played, see? Now that wasn’t too hard, was it?


32 posted on 07/16/2017 2:19:43 PM PDT by servo1969
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