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Trump declares national emergency over opioid crisis
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | August 10, 2017 | Aubrey Whelan

Posted on 08/10/2017 2:41:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: umgud

You’re in California.

They’ll just send you to The Pot Shop.


21 posted on 08/10/2017 3:29:25 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: All
A "war on drugs" for 46 years, billions spent, civil liberties eroded and yet we have another drug "crisis".

What's that saying about doing the same things over and over again expecting a different outcome?

22 posted on 08/10/2017 3:30:55 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time to get southern wall built.


23 posted on 08/10/2017 3:40:00 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: umgud
The easiest solution is to over-regulate and crack down on those people who don’t abuse opioids.

That's what I fear. I've only ever been prescribed pain killers maybe twice in my life, and always only wind up needing them for a day or two... then the bottle of leftovers lasts me for years.

I fear that when I do need them for some legit reason they'll be impossible to get because of all this.

I honestly don't understand the big attraction for people who don't truly need them... for me they don't provide any sort of high, just relief from pain due to a broken bone or something.

24 posted on 08/10/2017 3:40:43 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: ronnie raygun

I grew up in West Virginia. I once sat down and came up with 25 childhood friends/classmates who were either dead, in jail, addicted, or in recovery.

Nearly all of them started the same way: a doctor over-prescribing.

Death penalty for them too?


25 posted on 08/10/2017 3:52:02 PM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You mean arrest the Boards of the pharmaceutical companies that started this mess?


26 posted on 08/10/2017 3:58:39 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ronnie raygun

I know, they’re dropping like flies in my neck of the woods, too. Late 20’s early 30’s. Just like the rock stars did.


27 posted on 08/10/2017 4:00:23 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Wolfie

And the FDA too.


28 posted on 08/10/2017 4:02:05 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dang it,this makes me so mad! I would bet a pill that the “opioid” that are such an emergency are actually Fentinyl that has been stepped off. That means some brilliant drug dealers are getting their hands on Fen. patches (as far as I know, that's how Fen. is given), they inject it with some other nasty drug (sorry, no longer work for the prosecutor, don't have the recipe), with makes the Fen. patch toxic, and in some cases, fatal even to the touch.

Sadly, *all* opioids will now be under scrutiny. Those of us who need it (stage 4 cancer with mets) will have to jump hoops just to have quality of life.

And, just to be snippy about it, let's check those numbers, shall we? Let's get the press to do their job and break down the deaths by drug used, was deceased an active addict, where did the drugs come from? Guarantee you, it will be Fentynil and addicts. In some states, if you hang around druggies and can prove it, some pharmacies will sell you Narcan. Which, I guess, there are people kind enough to use.

29 posted on 08/10/2017 4:12:58 PM PDT by blu (If you don't read the story at the link, don't comment.)
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To: blu

(Shakes head sheepishly.)

HEROIN!! THEY ARE F’N TALKING ABOUT HEROIN! That is the number one drug killer out there, and has been a problem since..forever. I guess their logic is that people get addicted to painkillers and then all us middle class type people go down to the local Shop N Save parking lot and score us some real drugs...HEROIN!

(now just shakes head)

I vote we pay attention to the Norks, we bump up the money and resources for addiction treatment and we stay out of America’s medicine cabinet...which we keep locked.


30 posted on 08/10/2017 4:22:32 PM PDT by blu (If you don't read the story at the link, don't comment.)
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To: itsahoot
Guarding the opium for Rothschild CIA
31 posted on 08/10/2017 4:41:22 PM PDT by SC DOC
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To: umgud
The easiest solution is to over-regulate and crack down on those people who don’t abuse opioids.

That is exactly what is happening. I won't go into my condition, but I cannot get a script for a diagnosed condition and it pisses me off.

FMCDH(BITS)

32 posted on 08/10/2017 4:45:59 PM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: Red Badger

Someone with the necessary photo shop skills should take that crybaby symbol of the Democrats from the 2000 elections, and make an updated version with Jan Brady screaming “Russia! Russia! Russia!”.


33 posted on 08/11/2017 3:47:18 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Prayers for our country and President Trump)
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To: itsahoot

Poppies are such beautiful flowers.


34 posted on 08/11/2017 3:54:21 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve always said, remove all of the warning labels and let nature take its course.

Same goes for druggies. Stop rescuing OD’s.


35 posted on 08/11/2017 3:59:16 AM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey playoffs season!)
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To: shibumi
6 years ago I found the right neurosurgeon to operate on my back. It was a 16 hour surgery, 13 days in the hospital.

It took 3 years to find him. I was in horrible pain. I took a double dose of Opana and 15 mg roxies for break through .pain, I also had at least 20 epidurles. I pain never went away but it lowered it enough that i didn't kill myself.

I never ever got a buzz or good feeling from the drugs. When the post surgery pain was going, I weaned myself out all the pain meds with no help from anyone.

My PM doc said I still needed meds. Yes, he was a quack. My PCP said she wasn't qualified.

I did go on line and red about how successful heroin users quit and I followed some of their protocol.

It worked and I have been drug free for way over 5.5 years.

The government wanting to remove Opana from the market makes me sick. I know people in real pain need these drugs.

I also know of addicts that are using kratom to come off heroin. It's natural and much less addicting than methadone or suboxion that doctors put heroin addicts on.

36 posted on 08/11/2017 4:58:52 AM PDT by muggs
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To: LeoWindhorse

Not just DUMBO, GWB did too as did the presidents before him clear back to Nam. Laos was the source then. Now its China for Fen. and Mexico/Afghanistan for anything that is Poppy. China mails the Fen into the US or brings it in with the MEX cartels from Mexico.

No one is putting the drug the user used on the ME report or Death Certificate. Most are ILLEGAL drugs, NOT script opioids used for short term surgery/injury pain. Or Long Term Intractable Pain for people with Incurable diseases that are very painful. Who are now being treated worse than street Junkies. They ignore the suicides from lack of pain control too, and lump them in with the OD’s.

I know History Channel is not for most of us a reliable source. They did a several part series on America’s War on Drugs, and the main focus was the CIA bringing the crap into the US via Air America to fund regime change, for a lesser of 2 evils. You can’t burn the poppy fields in Iraq or
Afghanistan, and have them grow cotton, it competes with US Cotton growers, and that is against the STUPID Law.

See Red Lawhern Phd on pain management. http://nationalpainreport.com/author/redlawhern

According to Sam Quinones, Mexican “black tar” heroin starting flowing into the U.S. in the late 80s and picked up speed in the early 90s, continuing to flow more and more steadily since then. A brief search led me to a document prepared for Congress last year: “Heroin Trafficking in the United States” (https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R44599.pdf).

Page 5 shows a figure for heroin seizures (total and solely for the SW border) from 2006 to 2015. The levels were flat for the first couple of years, then rose steadily. Page 7 shows DEA heroin arrests for 200 through 2015: Arrests fell from 2001 to 2003, then were flat until 2008, after which came a steady rise.

In other words, the heroin problem has been around for decades, different administrations have taken various approaches. The one thing we can say with confidence is that no administration has found a viable long-term solution so far.


37 posted on 08/11/2017 5:30:22 AM PDT by GailA (Ret. SCPO wife: suck it up buttercups it's President Donald Trump!)
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To: nothingnew
It pisses me off too.

People in pain need relief. A pain pill off the street can cost as much as $30.00. One pill!!!

Heroin - $10.00.

If someone is jerked from their med bad things happen, then no one cares because they are just a junkie.

People do not intended to get hooked. No one says I want to be addicted.

OD’s are happening to middle class children so it could be your kid or grand kid next. I know, you don't give a shit, let them die, you never really loved them anyway.

38 posted on 08/11/2017 5:34:22 AM PDT by muggs
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To: Paladin2
Chris Christie needs to worry about the obesity epidemic.

I happen to care about both problems. You don't have to be a bleeding heart liberal to not want to see people die from OD’s. Maybe we should stop responding to people with COPD that got it from smoking. It was caused by an addiction to cigarettes.I wonder if COPD affects any of your lives.

39 posted on 08/11/2017 5:39:35 AM PDT by muggs
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To: 9YearLurker
Poppies are such beautiful flowers.

I think they are on the CIA protected plant list.

40 posted on 08/11/2017 8:40:49 AM PDT by itsahoot (As long as there is money to be divided, there will be division.)
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