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1 posted on 09/07/2017 7:54:52 AM PDT by 198ml
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Total BS


2 posted on 09/07/2017 7:56:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Looks like Trump playing hardball with the GOPe leaders.

Can the leadership be shamed into acting like Republicans/conservatives? Time will tell.


3 posted on 09/07/2017 7:57:55 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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Just get rid of the debt ceiling. That ceiling is a farce.


5 posted on 09/07/2017 8:01:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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The Chuck and Nancy show was a pure Trumpian move. It was time for a broadside against the RINOs. We now return to our regularly scheduled conservative agenda.


6 posted on 09/07/2017 8:02:29 AM PDT by scottinoc
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Why it matters: Tax reform is now less likely, with trust ruptured between Trump and Republican Hill leaders. Democrats are more likely to flip the House in 2018: Republicans have less than ever to show their voters.

The author undermines his own point by including the last item in the list.

Republicans have "less than ever to show their voters" for reasons that have nothing to do with yesterday's three-month government spending bill. They walked into that meeting with nothing more than a parade of squandered opportunities from the last seven months to show their voters.

In other words, yesterday's deal didn't matter at all ... except that it reinforced the idea in the minds of most Americans that the Republicans in Congress are useless piles of sh!t.

9 posted on 09/07/2017 8:08:14 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris." -- President Trump, 6/1/2017)
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If you don’t follow the news you’re uninformed, if you do, you are mis-informed.

I am sick and tired of the end of the world crap out of all the pundits on both sides of the aisle, every time something doesn’t go the way they think it should.

Debt Ceiling was a non starter, by all but the complete foolish... No one is going to put the economy at risk when they know a comprehensive budget deal isn’t going to happen before the deadline....

I have faith that Trump will get tax reform done, and it likely won’t be “perfect” when viewed by either end of the political spectrums purity tests, but if he gets the taxes lowered and simplified like they need to be, that will be a good thing...

Until something is actually passed and ready to be signed, all the rest of this is just white noise.


11 posted on 09/07/2017 8:11:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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“Republicans have less than ever to show their voters”

Less than zero?

Interesting.


14 posted on 09/07/2017 8:13:16 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (CNN IS ISIS.)
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He needs to raise the debt ceiling now because of the hurricanes. Republicans are going to Stonewall him and let him sink on this whole hurricane funding thing


16 posted on 09/07/2017 8:14:20 AM PDT by BRL
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Old story about a man and a mule:

An old farmer was selling a mule, a man stopped by to look at it. The man asked the farmer if he ever beat the mule and the farmer said no. Things moved on and they hooked a plow to the mule and the mule just stood there until the farmer pulled out a piece of 2x4 and whacked the mule which then began plowing a straight row. The man said “I thought you said you didn’t beat the mule.” The farmer replied, “I don’t, but sometimes you have to get his attention.”

I suspect Trump just got the GOPe’s attention.


19 posted on 09/07/2017 8:19:16 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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It’s very simple.

The places where Trump, Ryan and McConnell overlap ideologically are purely by accident.

And he personally hates Ryan and McConnell for being hicks from the sticks.

The places he overlaps ideologically with Chuck and Nancy actually make some sense.

(Note: on his truly core issues like the wall, he overlaps with none of these people).

More importantly, he likes Chuck and Nancy. Nancy is rich and keeps herself together for an old broad. Chuck is a smart-ass New Yorker from an outer borough. They are the exact kind of coastal elites that he’s been seeking approval from since the 70s.

Seriously, what the hell do Ryan and Trump talk about over dinner? The tax code? Subsidies to dairy farmers?

I imagine Chuck and Trump laughing about some corrupt judge who got taken out by a low-level Gambino in the early 80s and what corner has the best hot dog cart. They probably hate the same newspaper columnists and council members too.

So much of Trump’s negotiating style is based on personal relationships that this is inevitable.


24 posted on 09/07/2017 8:28:54 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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Congressional GOP leaders wanted to reduce the leverage of the debt ceiling by extending it for 18 months. The 3 month deal brings it back up before the 2018 mid-terms.

This appears to be President Trump retaining election season leverage.

Also, the rupture in trust was not caused by the President. It is caused by the faithless and feckless GOP in congress.


27 posted on 09/07/2017 8:36:50 AM PDT by MortMan (Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded! [Y. Berra])
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I heard on the radio this morning, there's a meme or cartoon of this picture with the caption....

"Welcome, Mr. President to the Swamp."

30 posted on 09/07/2017 8:40:18 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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Trump "brazenly rolled his own party's leaders," as AP put it. Plus his own Treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin — in front of leaders of both parties.

GREAT! Now the RINOs know Trump has additional options.

Now the Demoncrat leaders have something that can be taken away.

32 posted on 09/07/2017 8:43:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( You)
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43 posted on 09/07/2017 9:04:56 AM PDT by PeteePie (Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people - Proverbs 14:34)
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Trump’s action was aimed directly at McConnell. If McConnell isn’t going to ditch the current filibuster rule, as Trump has specifically requested, then nothing is going to get done without Schumer’s assent.

So, might as well deal with the guy who holds the cards, right?

Of course, Schumer’s only holding that Trump card (pun absolutely intended) because of McConnell’s stubborn refusal to drop the filibuster rule and start getting Trump’s agenda passed, so now it’s up to McConnell to take it out of Schumer’s hands.

Will he do it? On the record so far, that’s doubtful.


47 posted on 09/07/2017 9:13:21 AM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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Total BS indeed. Here's the way I see it. Trump has gotten no assurances or help from the Republican leadership in the house or senate on implementing what the American people want him to do. He's done all he can with executive orders and regulations. Outstanding. But legislatively the Republican leadership has decided they know best.

So Trump see's they ain't gonna do a thing. AND he see's their plan is to blame the inaction on him. So he's basically said "Screw you. I'm going to get re-elected...my base has my back for the most part. So I'm going to SHOW that I can work with people EVEN if it means screwing Republicans."

Look at what changed recently. Key Dems came out against Antifa. Key dems have been somewhat conciliatory toward Trump. Leaks have virtually stopped. I think Trump knows he's going to get re-elected no matter what. He knows that the Republicans aren't going to help him legislatively at all. So he's now going after Dem voters.

What's clear to Trump is that the AMERICAN people want what he campaigned on. If the Republicans won't do it he'll work the the Democrats. If neither will do it then he just has to wait through a few election cycles.

50 posted on 09/07/2017 9:22:31 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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PRESIDENT TRUMP finally got legislation past the obstructionist GOPe. They had planned to spend the rest of their do-nothing session debating an imaginary debt ceiling instead of putting their efforts into passing meaningful legislation on the budget, taxes, and healthcare.


54 posted on 09/07/2017 9:32:52 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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rump Goes Left | The Andrew Klavan Show Ep. 377:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnpUyYtXM_U

Months ago, I told you that if O’Care reform failed, Trump would deal with Democrats. Today, I’ll tell you what’ll happen next. Plus Victor Davis Hanson joins us to discuss history and today.


60 posted on 09/07/2017 12:00:39 PM PDT by Valin
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If the dems win back the house, Pelosi will impeach him. She and chuckie and the dem base have no loyalty to trump, and this deal means nothing to them.


80 posted on 09/10/2017 10:57:59 PM PDT by kjam22 (America need forgiveness from God)
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Wait, I thought the FR consensus back in Feb. or so was “It’s OK to push thru yet another crappy CR, Mr. Trump will get the job done (real budget) in September for fiscal 2018 after Congress comes back in session”. Instead they “kick the can” yet again with another CR and debt ceiling increase. Not even a suggestion or a try for a clean relief bill with offsetting budget cuts. Now with Irma/Florida are they going to do another $10 billion?!?

FYI: Harvey relief/CR/debt ceiling bill text: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hr601


81 posted on 09/10/2017 10:59:25 PM PDT by Drago
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