But that agreement was not made with children of any future illegal aliens or anyone who didn't provide their information and sign up for the agreement. It was only an agreement with those who registered under the Obama administration.
DACA participants have no path to citizenship. They only have indefinite deferred deportation. They are not here legally. They may stay, in violation of our law, with agreement that the law will not be enforced on them. But they must accept that their status is permanently illegal and they will never be allowed legal status, ever.
The President must understand this. DACA participants do not love America. This is not their country. For, if they loved America, if this were their country, they would go back and immigrate legally. They immigrate legally because they do not respect our laws.
Well there it is straight from Trumps mouth.
Now no one has to speculate anymore.
We just got screwed.
Does Trump have even the slightest understanding of how many “certified” DACA status aliens got the status through FRAUD?
Deport All Criminal Aliens
YES, we do. They can go back to their home countries, their birth countries, take their illegal families with them. They go with US taxpayer-paid American education, US taxpayer-paid good health, our values, our uplifting. They reverse the brain drain, they empower and can lead change in their birth countries. It is a win-win. We get rid of the infestation, their birth countries get back healthy, educated citizens.
We have laws, we have rules, we have a process in place.
Children of illegals do not get automatic U.S. citizenship. The 14th Amendment does not cover the children of illegals.
My compromise - and ONLY compromise (and this is after the border is shut-down, anchor babies are abolished, the wall is built, no freebies or benefits for illegals, the existing illegals are deported, etc.) is that children of illegals should return to their parent's country of origin, have a 3-year waiting period, and then re-apply for citizenship, which would be merit-based (English and strong work skills, no criminal record) and on a case-by-case basis. And NO chain migration.
These kids are the least of our problems. I’m sure that Trump is getting something in return for this deal. Probably democrat votes for tax reform and the wall.
Bottom line is that these kids didn’t break the law. Their parents did. Giving them work permits makes sense. But no path to citizenship.
The pro-DACA meme only makes sense if you BUILD THE WALL.
Build the wall. Trump I was among your early supporters here on FR. But I will completely turn, if you do not build the wall.
Get started on it.
Build it.
What is Mr. Trump/Congress going to do in a year or so when another 5,000-10,000 minors have crossed the border illegally? Throw them out? After all they are here “thru no fault of their own”. Is DACA ongoing forever for all new “arrivals”? The “wall” is awhile off, and even with one hundreds if not thousands of minors will make it in over the years.
In any case Mr. Trump is fully behind the current 800,000 to 1 million staying and DACA being “codified”...not quite the “illegal executive order” that I heard during his campaign.
Why do so many act as if being Mexican and living in Mexico is a punishment? Is everyone who is not American being punished by not being here? If that logic holds, we must bring in everyone to America, whether they want to or not, to save them from punishment.
In all fairness there are two guilty parties responsible for this debacle.
Let’s say you go to work and leave your door open. You come back from work and you find someone in your house sitting at the table eating. You kick him out and he leaves.
The next day you again leave the door open and more people walk through the door and help themselves to your stuff.
And you keep doing this everyday - leaving the door open and finding people occupying your place.
Whose fault is it?
Personally I would put more of the blame on the owner than the guests. When someone willfully refuses to protect what is his, he has no right to complain when someone takes it.
We have been willfully negligent in not locking the door to our nation. We’ve actually been much worse than that, not only did we leave the door open, we had a welcome sign out with directions to where strangers can find a hot meal, a warm bed and pocket change.
We deserve a lot of the blame for the illegals that are here. We’ve had welcome wagons out for them, we can hardly blame them for coming and making themselves at home.
So because we share a lot, if not the majority of the blame, I would be in favor of leniency for the people with a good record that WE allowed to come here, deport the bad ones, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY BUILD THE DAMN WALL AND FROM NOW ON ENFORCE THE LAWS.
I heard there’s only 900 ‘DACA’ in the military. Whoop-de-doo. Keep a few hundred thousand because of 900? That’s liberal logic right there.
If he doesn’t have the balls, if they are locked up in the lockbox I will do it for him. GTHO, and I mean now. You have no citizenship status, you are not here legally. You have 30 days to leave or you will be placed on a bus/plane, or boat and deported. No more amnesty, no more chain immigration, no more birthright citizenship. If you are not born in the US by at least one Citizen as a parent, you are not a citizen and must return to your home country.
If you read the article you posted ... OK, we’re supposed to believe Schumer and Pelosi, although the WH denied their claim. And the facts are that he ended DACA as of September 5th and says he won’t tie border security to DACA.
And he is, as usual launching twitter trial balloons, but let’s all assume the worst and retire for good cry before lights out.
Back to the emotional drama and rants from FR’s stout hearted manlets ... disgusting.
Talk to your congress critter.
Trump loves Twitter bashing false news about his positions.
No doubt that he will begin his Twitter barrage bashing DACA deal misrepresentations.
Any second now!
Not all of them are good, not all of them are educated, and not all of them are young.
If the president can’t see the anger of his base, then he is tone deaf.
DACA along with
» obamacare,
» lawless judges with lifetime appointments,
» countless - and now invisible - middle east ‘refugees’,
» ~$10 Trillion in wasted debt,
» cash-for-clunkers destroyed 2nd and 3rd family cars,
and how many other deeds,
#44 left his successors with a huge wad of tangled up string that can’t ever be straightened out, probably.
“Does anyone really want to ‘throw out’ good, educated young people?”
Yes. I would not balk out the deportation of 2nd and 3rd generations of illegal aliens...The anchor baby pyramid scheme.
I want them all deported. All 50 million of them.
Yes throw them out They broke the law. I can’t choose what laws I want to follow. Why should they?