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Is the Earth’s Climate History Largely a Fraud?
Powerline ^ | September 19,2017 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 09/20/2017 3:52:37 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

How many accurate thermometers in all this time placed in the correct position and not on concrete, rock, next to a/c vents etc. thru out the world? The oceans make up some 70% and would not have thermometers. Garbage data in and garbage data out.


21 posted on 09/20/2017 9:15:15 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Repeal The 17th
The problem is twofold:
they do not have reliable data, and their mathematical models do not work.

If you go back much beyond the 20th century, there simply is no reliable data for one simple reason. Outside of expensive instruments in laboratories, there was no way to accurately measure temperature that was even close to the kind of temperature changes they are talking about. Any changes that may even have theoretically happened are well within the margin of error for the devices.

22 posted on 09/21/2017 6:50:12 AM PDT by zeugma (I live in the present due to the constraints of the Space-Time Continuum. —Hank Green)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
...the climate models, which were created for the purpose of generating hysteria and government grants, are wrong... the people who created the self-interested and politically-motivated models also control the temperature record, and they have been changing it to make their models, and their entitlement to billions in government grants, look better.
Hence the need to round up all of them and hang them.
23 posted on 09/23/2017 10:32:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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There’s plenty of data, at least relatively recently.

Google VOSTOK ICE CORE DATA

It goes back around 900,000 years. And yes, it shows we are, for a very short period, getting warmer. But it has zero, zilch, nada to do with how far you drive your suv.
It happens in cycles every 120,000 years or so.


24 posted on 09/23/2017 10:39:56 PM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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The “ice core data” does not show direct temperature or CO2 without mathematical interpretation.
It is no more reliable that the “tree ring data” or the “ocean sediment data” or any of the other surrogate “measurements”.
Garbage in = garbage out.


25 posted on 09/23/2017 10:50:44 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (I was conceived in liberty, how about you?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Well, if you don’t believe it, that’s your choice.


26 posted on 09/23/2017 11:04:24 PM PDT by djf ("She wore a raspberry beret, the kind you find in a second hand store..." - Prince)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hence the need to round up all of them and hang them.

Civ - don't hold back - tell us how you really feel...

27 posted on 09/24/2017 12:24:06 AM PDT by GOPJ ("$3 Million Dollars 'PER DAY' is spent to incarcerate criminal illegals.That's $1.2 Billion a year.")
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To: zeugma; All
The correct perspective...




28 posted on 09/24/2017 12:53:04 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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Try again...

If you were reading the same thermometers they were using to measure temps 150 years ago...




29 posted on 09/24/2017 1:04:04 AM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: GOPJ
;^)
30 posted on 09/24/2017 12:10:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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