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1 posted on 09/23/2017 11:10:02 AM PDT by PPSman
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To: PPSman

Who died and made them Mammon?!


2 posted on 09/23/2017 11:15:47 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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"The U.S. Federal Reserve will not only issue its own cryptocurrency but will also make sure Americans use it, according to Doug Casey."

Let's guess:
1. By law?
2. By behind the scenes regulations?
3. By collusion with banks and business leaders?
4. All of the above?

3 posted on 09/23/2017 11:17:40 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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Like everything else government does, it starts small and innocuous, with a sweet-sounding name. I don’t care who’s the president. This will happen no matter who’s president.

In 2 years it becomes accepted at all federal agencies.
In 2.1 years it’s used for EBT cards.
In 2.5 years it’s accepted at all state agencies.
In 3 years it’s accepted at Starbucks.
In 5 years it’s accepted at most businesses.
In 6 years your pay is in Fedcoin.
In 6.5 years, your taxes must be paid in Fedcoin.
In 10 years, it becomes mandatory for all transactions, except those of the ruling elite, with penalties ranging from life in prison to death for use of cash.
In 10.005 years everyone finds out that the government has been monitoring all transactions, and will use the information to determine what your salary and taxes will be. They will just take the taxes out of your money. No need to file a tax return. Convenient, eh?


5 posted on 09/23/2017 11:20:37 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Constantly doing things in opposition to human nature is insanity.)
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To: PPSman

Only usable inside the United States. That’s exactly the way it was with the old Russian ruble non-convertible outside the USSR.

Any questions who the bad guys are these days here in the USSA?


6 posted on 09/23/2017 11:24:01 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: PPSman
Anyone know if the Fedcoin is to be backed by anything other then the good will and faith of the Federal Reserve?
7 posted on 09/23/2017 11:25:08 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: PPSman

It’s unconstitutional. The constitution only gives the federal government the power to coin money (not to make coins). And the states are prohibited from making anything but gold or silver legal tender (i.e. money).

Our government has been ignoring this constitutional mandate for far too many decades, and now we see the result.

Time for Americans to oppose government using cyber cash (and paper) in place of actual money.

I realize that returning to a gold or silver standard will create huge problems — but nothing like the problems we will face if US government created cyber money becomes the only legal tender.


11 posted on 09/23/2017 11:30:26 AM PDT by Maceman (Let's ban Muslims temporarily -- just until non-Muslims can freely practice their religions in Mecca)
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To: PPSman

Cheaper to (not) print, no government controls, automating the Mint eliminating jobs, currency control, trace every dollar in and out, eliminated money laundering, diminish tax cheating except for bartering, etc. Eventually , no dual currency.

How do I buy a “Proof Electron”?


13 posted on 09/23/2017 11:33:46 AM PDT by Tuketu (The Dim Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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To: PPSman

Fedcoin is not a good idea.

Unless someone wants to control all aspects of your life.

5.56mm


15 posted on 09/23/2017 11:34:44 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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Federal Reserve to Launch Its Own E-currency: Fedcoin

Because the dollar isn't yet phoney enough and prone to as much manipulation as they would like.

17 posted on 09/23/2017 11:35:05 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Is this their response to Bitcoin???

Why does our government need a crypto currency, if they already have regular currency, if I can is that term??

As so many of us do online banking and transfer funds, using debit cards and electronic transfer, why is the government seeing a need for a crypto currency?? Isn’t the whole point of Bitcoin that it is outside the control of any governmental control???


18 posted on 09/23/2017 11:35:34 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: BroJoeK
How are those Hamiltonian ideas looking now BroJoeK?

:)

19 posted on 09/23/2017 11:35:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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Ping.


20 posted on 09/23/2017 11:36:13 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PPSman

No drug money, no money for hostile regimes, no money laundering, oh no!


21 posted on 09/23/2017 11:37:11 AM PDT by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: PPSman

The whole point of blockchain currencies is they can’t be manipulated or confiscated by a government.

This currency would be designed to make sure the government could manipulate/confiscate it.

No sale.


24 posted on 09/23/2017 11:45:47 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: PPSman

Got FedCoin?


27 posted on 09/23/2017 11:59:49 AM PDT by Gasshog (When in trouble or in doubt, run in circles scream and shout!)
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To: PPSman; All
Thank you for referencing that article PPSman. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

"Federal Reserve to Launch Its Own E-currency: Fedcoin"

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Noting that Pres. Trump favors the gold standard, please consider the following.

Trump Favors Returning To The Gold Standard

Regardless what the Federal Reserve wants, unconstitutional Fedcoin in this example, not only does Pres. Trump favor returning to the gold standard, but consider the following concerning the constitutionally undefined Federal Reserve.

Let's start by considering that Thomas Jefferson had noted that the state delegates to the Constitutional Convention had decided not to give the feds the specific power to regulate banking. So regardless that the Federal Reserve is argued to be a private entity, it remains that Pres. Wilson wrongly ignored state sovereignty by signing the Federal Reserve Act into law imo.

“A proposition was made to them to authorize Congress to open canals, and an amendatory one to empower them to incorporate. But the whole was rejected, and one of the reasons for rejection urged in debate was, that then they would have a power to erect a bank, which would render the great cities, where there were prejudices and jealousies on the subject, adverse to the reception of the Constitution [emphasis added].” —Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791.

Next, when socialist FDR confiscated gold with unconstitutional (imo) Executive Order 6102, he wrongly ignored that the Founding States had decided that the states would use only gold and silver coin as legal tender.

"Article I, Section 10, Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts [emphasis added]; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility."

Finally, consider that the Founding States make the first numbered clauses in the Constitution, Sections 1-3 of Article I, evidently a good place to hide these clauses from Congress (sarc), to clarify that all federal legislative powers are vested in the elected members of Congress, not in the executive or judicial branches, or in the non-elected “private” entities running the constitutionally undefined Federal Reserve.

So it can be argued that the Reserve is just another way for career lawmakers to protect their voting records where Congress's constitutional Article I, Section 8, Clause 5 power to regulate the value of coin money is concerned imo.

"Article I, Section 8, Clause 5: To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof [emphasis added], and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;"

Corrections, insights welcome.

Changing the emphasis of this thread to gold standard-supporting Pres. Trump, consider that although Trump is accomplishing a LOT as president, it remains that since the state sovereignty-ignoring Congress wants to get rid of him that his first two years in office are arguably for practice. That being said ...

Drain the swamp sewer! Drain the sewer!

Remember in November 2018 !

Since corrupt Congress is the biggest part of the sewer (imo) that Trump wants to drain, it is actually up to us patriots to drain the sewer in the 2018 elections, patriots supporting Trump by electing as many new members of Congress as they can who will support Trump.

In the meanwhile, patriots need to make sure that there are plenty of Trump-supporting candidates on the primary ballots.

Patriots need to qualify candidates by asking them why the Founding States made the Constitution’s Section 8 of Article I; to limit (cripple) the federal government’s powers.

Patriots also need to make sure that candidates are knowledgeable of the Supreme Court's clarifications of the federal government’s limited powers listed here.

Also, unlike career members of Congress who wrongly remained silent while misguided state officials abridged the constitutionally enumerated rights of citizens during the lawless Obama Administration, patriots need to make sure that candidates on the 2018 primary ballots commit to the following.

Candidates need to commit to making and enforcing 14th Amendment-related laws to prosecute misguided state officials who use state powers to abridge constitutionally enumerated protections, 1st Amendment-protected religious expression and free speech for example, such actions prohibited by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment.

”14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Again, drain the sewer! Drain the sewer!

31 posted on 09/23/2017 1:01:36 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Oh goodie. This will surely turn out well.

Now they don’t even have to use paper and ink to create trillions in worthless fiat. Just a few electrons.

Well, at least it will save on bearing replacement on the presses that have been running overtime for the last 20 (+) years


32 posted on 09/23/2017 1:28:55 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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http://www.nasdaq.com/article/fedcoin-could-replace-the-dollar-as-we-know-it-cm774260

Reputable discussion on concept


35 posted on 09/23/2017 1:50:51 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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Government crypto-currency is an oxymoron. The whole point of cryptocurrency is privacy from the government.


38 posted on 09/23/2017 4:43:06 PM PDT by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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I had to check to see if this was dated April 1 or not. Lol.


39 posted on 09/23/2017 4:57:28 PM PDT by ChuckR163
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