[dfwgator]

That explains why we’re stuck with Justin Bieber.

[Berlin_Freeper]

This cannot stand.

[sparklite2]

I remember reading that the US didn’t win the war of 1812, but didn’t particularly lose it, either. Glad I could help. LOL

[pepsi_junkie]

Which is why they speak French throughout the nation to this very day. Oh, wait...

[DiogenesLamp]

In a relatively rare admission for an American scholar, a leading U.S. historian who authored a provocative new tome about North American military conflicts states bluntly that Canada won the War of 1812.

It was British troops that came down and burned Washington. Yes, Canadians were among them, but if I recall correctly, it was predominantly a British force from England.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

54 40 or fight.

[be-baw]

On a related (or not) note:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cajuns

[Bringbackthedraft]

Well, who exactly got to eat the pig?

[JPJones]

“professor Eliot Cohen,”

“Eliot” is a fat kid who eats paste.

[Repeal The 17th]

Isn’t this article from way back in 2011?

[FreedomNotSafety]

Seems to me I was taught it was a win versus the British because the British didn’t beat us senseless and we established our navy with Canada being stretch that didn’t work out. But I’ve never heard it as a glorious win especially as win or loss to Canada which did not exist as Canada.

But we won by losing. Imagine adding those cities to our own.

[x]

Sure, if you want to take a Canada-centric point of view.

We were fighting the British, though, and the fact that they didn't take us over again could be counted as a victory.

Those who went to war because they wanted to take over Canada certainly didn't get what they wanted, but we had so much land at the time that we could afford to forget about all that afterwards.

Bushite Eliot Cohen is no fan of Trump's. Maybe he's smoothing the way for eventually emigrating.

[goldstategop]

LOL! At time Canada did not exist; the colonies of Lower and Upper Canada were ruled by the UK.

[rightwingcrazy]

The war of 1812 was against the UK, not Canada. The US bit off more than it could chew invading Canada, but I don’t think that was a primary or even a secondary goal going into the war.

[AU72]

The proximate cause was the British Navy press-ganging former British subjects on the high-seas.

Was that stopped after the War?

[iowamark]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004T4KRHY/
“Conquered into Liberty: Two Centuries of Battles along the Great Warpath that Made the American Way of War”

[captain_dave]

I always thought it was a draw. Neither side won but realized the war was a mistake.

[deadrock]

How did Canada win the war of 1812 when they never became a country until 1867? Or that their constitution was not repatriated until 1982?

[colorado tanker]

It could only be considered a loss if our primary war aim was to take Canada for the U.S. But that was not the reason we fought the war.

Some call the War the Second American Revolution because the end result was securing British respect for American sovereignty, including American flagged ships and the American Navy.

[SoCal Pubbie]

One might say the war of 1812 was essentially a draw, but strictly speaking the Americans obtained the war aims they set out to win in the beginning. Great Britain soon was willing to drop their impressment of American sailors, and abandoned plans to change the border with Canada. In fact Great Britain never really wanted the war to begin with, but only Jackson’s victory in the Battle of New Orleans prevented the British from leveraging any gains they might have won there, as the Treaty of Ghent had not yet been ratified.