Posted on 10/12/2017 8:00:14 AM PDT by detective
President Trump was livid. Why, he asked his advisers in mid-July, should he go along with what he considered the failed Obama-era policy toward Iran and prop up an international nuclear deal he saw as disastrous?
He was incensed by the arguments of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and others that the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits. He did not want to certify to Congress that the agreement remained in the vital U.S. national security interest and that Iran was meeting its obligations. He did not think either was true.
“He threw a fit,” said one person familiar with the meeting. “. . .He was furious. Really furious. It’s clear he felt jammed.”
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
Nothing wrong with throwing a fit when surrounded by poop heads.
And he loves his country.
Not a good thing. Working out a better solution is a good thing. This is not a playground; it’s possibly our lives.
People in this country are too afraid of losing their “comfort” (as John Adams put it) and don’t realize that some things are worth fighting for, understanding that they may get their nose blodied, they may die. Their loved ones may die.
“Give me liberty or give me death.” is not just a slogan. It also clearly implies knowledge of the risk involved.
i.e. I did not make that post lightly. I know EXACTLY what it implies. It is also what I meant.
It is not at all unusual for strong leaders to surround themselves with other strong individuals and a demonstration of anger is not a bad thing. The last thing a president needs is to be surrounded by a group of sycophants. To his credit, President Trump has assembled a group of strong willed individuals, some who even disagreed with him before they took office. A clash of viewpoints is more likely to yield good policy than is consensus. It has been said that if all your advisors agree with you, then you don’t need advisors. Disagreement is not disloyalty and strong leaders understand that. As President Trump stated in his interview yesterday, he gets to the opinion of many people but in the final analysis, his opinion is the one that counts.
I love that he gets furious over the right things....
Read the article.
These are not people disagreeing with the president or offering opinions.
These are people undermining Trump and leaking false statements to the media to make President Trump look bad.
These are people who are not concerned with the security of our great country or the actual problems with the so called “Iran deal.”
These are people trying to maneuver Trump into lying, saying the deal is successful and proposing that it be certified.
Disagreement is not disloyalty.
But what these people are doing certainly is.
That is what Trump is trying to prevent.
This entire scenario like so many others, is caused by too many diplomats concerned about short term costs VS. long term costs. When Iran had an open revolution against the Islamic Tyrants, Obama did less than nothing to aid that revolution. He did worse, he supported the regime of the Ayatollah while simultaneously aiding the destruction of our Allies’ regime in Egypt.
Now Trump is left with an Iran deal that is completely one sided and not only gave tens of billions of dollars in direct money to Iran, it gave them carte blanche on getting nuclear technology for their phony civil nuclear program. A program that makes zero sense since Iran has vast amounts of nonnuclear energy that is so abundant they could never need a nuclear power plant. We can't even get nuclear plants to be cost effective here.
I wondered why the resurrection of this narrative.
Listening to Rush L’s opening today, the reason may be apparent: rumblings of trying to invoke the 25th Amendment which gives the Cabinet the authority to vote a president out of office.
The resurrected article feeds into the ‘POTUS is insane’ narrative.
Why has Trump surrounded himself with people like this?
Hillary could throw a vertebra and the press would report how she stood tall.
Total BS. The president cannot “back out” of the deal. Its up to congress to consider based a recommedation from the president. The deal is renewed every 90 days.
The media is trying to paint a picture that our president is becoming unstable. They want to have an excuse to use the 25th amendment.
Stop believing this nonsense.
Poop heads HE appointed.
Mr. President, do not certify.
A plan might be to send the Iran deal to Congress to approve or disapprove. With the Senate’s “slow walking” everything he wants, it will never pass in time.
He did the same with the Dreamers and it’s at the bottom of the “to do” basket of work, never to see the light of day IMO.
FTA: Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and others
They want to kick the can down the road.... again.
I read this article earlier and was considering posting it for the same reasons you did. Yes, it seems his staff is trying to undermine him and is not being honest. They are scheming to find a way to keep the deal. This goes back to a point I make over and over and FR. It’s one made by Bannon and Gorka as they left. Trump has people on his staff who fundamentally don’t agree with what he ran on and who are advocating for a different agenda, thus leaving Trump to battle his own staff when they should be a team. Trump ran as anti-establishment, and Tillerson (recommended by Jeb!, Condi, and Bob Gates), McMaster (purged the NSC of Trump supporters), and Kelly (has restricted Trump’s news and access and overseen a loss of pro-Trump staff) are the establishment and would fit in in a Jeb! White House (so would Mattis if we’re being honest, although I like him). That’s why you have Corker attacking Trump over the rumors of Tillerson leaving and saying that these people are “containing” Trump and keeping him “middle of the road.” Corker chairs the Senate Foreign Relations committee. He advocates an establishment foreign policy, and Trump’s staff are his vehicle to get it, but Trump didn’t run as establishment, he didn’t win as establishment, so of course he doesn’t want to govern that way.
The worst part is his staff continues to leak as these articles always claim to have multiple sources, sometimes ones that are backed up by people like Mike Cernovich and Roger Stone. People in these meetings are leaking, and people leaking to establishment papers are doing it to hurt Trump. I think some want to portray him as crazy (see article title) to try to get the 25th Amendment and get Pence. With some staff not loyal to Trump, it is a concern - one raised by Bannon (per anonymous sources to Vanity Fair).
Gorka still maintains a staff cleaning before Christmas. Let’s hope.
The media is trying to paint a picture that our president is becoming unstable. They want to have an excuse to use the 25th amendment.
Stop believing this nonsense.”
The article was about whether President trump should recommend certification. Trump did not want to. His advisers did.
I said that the leaks about President Trump “throwing a fit” were probably not true or twisted to make Trump look bad.
The important point was that Trump's advisers were leaking information from a small private meeting for the purpose of undermining Trump.
I think Trump is right about the so called “Iran Deal.” I think the others are wrong.
It is a problem if Trump's Senior Staff are working to undermine him.
I also do not believe the media so I take the article with a grain of salt.
Thanks for the response.
I don’t trust the media.
I also find it difficult to understand why so many in the Washington establishment are so strongly in favor of this fraudulent and illegal “Iran deal” and completely unconcerned that Iran is violating the agreement.
I also don’t understand why they are undermining President Trump.
“He was incensed by the arguments of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and others that the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits.”
They said the same thing about the Munich Pact in 1938. How’d that ‘landmark deal’ work out?
McMasters is the ultimate insider. He knows how the deep state can destroy the president and the country. His book clearly shows he is just as disloyal to the president and worse still the country as those he condemned in it during the Vietnam war.
Kelly I can tolerate and Matthis has been a good choice so far. McMasters has to go.
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