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Big Bang May Have Never Happened, Suggests New Theory
NDTV ^ | February 11, 2015 17:55 IST | World | Press Trust of India

Posted on 10/29/2017 4:15:50 PM PDT by TBP

The Big Bang never happened and our universe may have no beginning and no end, suggests a new theory by physicists, including one of Indian-origin.

The theory applies quantum correction terms to complement Einstein's theory of general relativity and may also account for dark matter and dark energy.

The widely accepted age of the universe, as estimated by general relativity, is 13.8 billion years. In the beginning, everything in existence is thought to have occupied a single infinitely dense point, or singularity. Only after this point began to expand in a "Big Bang" did the universe officially begin.

Although the Big Bang singularity arises directly and unavoidably from the mathematics of general relativity, some scientists see it as problematic because the math can explain only what happened immediately after - not at or before - the singularity, 'Phys.org' reported.

Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, in Egypt and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Canada, have shown that the Big Bang singularity can be resolved by their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end.

Their work, published in the journal Physics Letters B, is based on ideas by theoretical physicist David Bohm in the 1950s, who explored replacing classical geodesics (the shortest path between two points on a curved surface) with quantum trajectories.

Researchers applied these Bohmian trajectories to an equation developed in the 1950s by physicist Amal Kumar Raychaudhuri at Presidency University in Kolkata.

In addition to not predicting a Big Bang singularity, the new model does not predict a "big crunch" singularity either.

The model avoids singularities because of a key difference between classical geodesics and Bohmian trajectories, researchers said.

Researchers explain that the quantum corrections can be thought of as a cosmological constant term (without the need for dark energy) and a radiation term.

These terms keep the universe at a finite size, and therefore give it an infinite age.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbang; creation; origins
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To: NTHockey
But if there was no one to hear it, was it really a bang?

I heard it and my ears are still ringing.

61 posted on 10/29/2017 5:43:13 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: TBP
their new model in which the universe has no beginning and no end

Can this model be applied to the Clintons?

62 posted on 10/29/2017 5:43:33 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Gen.Blather

Prachett had Alzheimers. He likely wanted a legal way out before he was totally incapacitated.


63 posted on 10/29/2017 5:47:21 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: huckfillary

A band of neolithic desert dwellers?


64 posted on 10/29/2017 5:48:18 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: TBP
Ahmed Farag Ali at Benha University and the Zewail City of Science and Technology, in Egypt and coauthor Saurya Das at the University of Lethbridge in Canada

Hmmmm. These places are not hotbeds of physics. Not that they have to be, but I'll reserve judgement.

65 posted on 10/29/2017 5:55:32 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: Gen.Blather
“...including one of Indian-origin.”

Why was that clause necessary?

What have you got against Indian Physicists? Huh?

66 posted on 10/29/2017 5:56:35 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TBP

personally I lean toward the swiss cheese theory ...


67 posted on 10/29/2017 6:04:45 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (..There is no difference between liberals/rinos/moslems/illegals/lamestream ..)
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To: Olog-hai

What do we know about God (one’s particular theology aside)? The defining characteristics of God would be eternality and infinity. (i.e. God would be infinite and eternal.)

So a Universe that has always existed (and has no boundary) points directly to God.

To say that the Big Bang never occurred is not to say that the Universe hasn’t changed and evolved over time.

At the still point of the turning world. Neither flesh nor fleshless;
Neither from nor towards; at the still point, there the dance is,
But neither arrest nor movement. And do not call it fixity,
Where past and future are gathered. Neither movement from nor towards,
Neither ascent nor decline. Except for the point, the still point,
There would be no dance, and there is only the dance. (T.S. Eliot)


68 posted on 10/29/2017 6:15:10 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: TBP

The static state theory holds well with the observable universe. What one needs to reflect on is the introduction of time. Time seems to be the variants that throws everything out of kilter. Assume a universe that has always existed and will always do so. Without time then this is logical mathematically and metaphisicallly. Without time, the universe was never created since the idea of creating something denotes a time component to it. A beginning and end. Without time there is no entropy. Creation out of nothing supposes a timeline: there is a start to something, time? Then again, time is a human construct.


69 posted on 10/29/2017 6:16:43 PM PDT by bubman
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To: Leaning Right

70 posted on 10/29/2017 6:21:44 PM PDT by AndrewB
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To: sparklite2

Haha, live studio audience my ass.

The only way they have a live studio audience is if the audience is prompted to laugh every single time someone says anything.

Horrible show, never understand why people like it, it’s always been utter garbage.


71 posted on 10/29/2017 6:23:32 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: FreedomStar3028

They have a live audience. You can get tickets.
But if what we hear during the show is un-augmented laughter, the audience is a bunch of mental cripples.


72 posted on 10/29/2017 6:26:51 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: Fungi

Did he create it for the other religions? Kind of poses a problem doesn’t it?


73 posted on 10/29/2017 6:33:52 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: huckfillary

Did you read my post and the scripture mentioned? It is self-explanatory.


74 posted on 10/29/2017 6:41:31 PM PDT by Fungi (What the hell is a fungus?)
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To: AndrewB

That was probably my favorite Big Bang Theory scene. Because of the, uh, humor.


75 posted on 10/29/2017 6:43:23 PM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: DH
Nonsensical question. The creation and the sin of man resulting from his rebellion toward God had nothing to do with other religions. You are ahead of yourself.
76 posted on 10/29/2017 6:44:51 PM PDT by Fungi (What the hell is a fungus?)
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To: Pelham

****An infinitely old universe will have a night sky filled with light****

I have yet to see proof that light travels forever.


77 posted on 10/29/2017 6:53:09 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: TBP
Bohmian trajectories

I wonder if that's like a Bohmian Rhapsody?

All seriousness aside, though, the bit about "finite size and infinite age" makes no sense if the U is expanding. Can't have all 3.

78 posted on 10/29/2017 6:56:16 PM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: ResponseAbility

As it travels, it loses energy which is expressed by a lower frequency. At some point, the frequency is so low you can’t see it. I suppose then you could say is stopped. But as we can see, the surface of a star puts out a LOT of light and we can see it from incredibly far away, almost back to the ‘flash’ when light became able to ‘shine.’


79 posted on 10/29/2017 6:57:06 PM PDT by sparklite2 (I'm less interested in the rights I have than the liberties I can take.)
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To: TBP

Ya think?

I’m sure the atheists will have a new cockamamie story before long!


80 posted on 10/29/2017 6:59:46 PM PDT by luvie (Our troops are the best of the best and we should honor them EVERY day!)
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