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LIVE: Mueller Russia Indictment --- Breaking Thread
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Posted on 10/30/2017 4:23:39 AM PDT by PghBaldy

Please post links & news on today's Trump - Russia - Mueller indictment(s)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: baitandswitch; criminalsinside; indictment; manafort; mueller; noaccountability; nointegrity; podesta; rickgates; russia; treasoninside; trump; trumprussia
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To: maggief

Could be.

The interesting thing about manafort is that he is a treasure trove. He faces going to jail versus getting whacked by Semion etc.

Firtash has made it clear in public that he is not cooperating.


181 posted on 10/30/2017 6:22:02 AM PDT by RummyChick
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How bad is this for Trump? Did the swamp finally get the thing needed to bring down Trump and his administration? I am getting worried....


182 posted on 10/30/2017 6:24:57 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: PghBaldy

Timing comment: much speculation on timing of this indictment. It is possible there is simpler reason. Most federal crimes have 5year statute of limitations. It has been reported that the transactions go back to 2012. This indictment may have been rushed in order to have it be timely filed. if so, the evidence gathered may not be conclusive.


183 posted on 10/30/2017 6:26:03 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: maggief

The blow-back on Dems potential of Mueller charging Manafort keep getting better and better.


184 posted on 10/30/2017 6:26:25 AM PDT by GAgal
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To: PghBaldy

Queue the music:

Dun!

Dun Dun Dun!

Dun Dun.

[Does CNN have their countdown clock running this morning. I refuse to tune them in to find out.]


185 posted on 10/30/2017 6:28:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Travis McGee; LS; Liz; Alberta's Child

fox news just broadcast summary of 12 count indictment to include:

1. conspiracy against the United States
2. conspiracy to launder money
3. Failure to file - unregistered agent of foreign country
4. False & misleading statements on FARA registration
5 - 12. False statements re: dealing with foreign banks

lot’s more respect for court reporters.

that’s close to what was stated on fox news this am


186 posted on 10/30/2017 6:29:49 AM PDT by thinden
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To: maggief

My guess is they already tried to flip him on Trump and didn’t get anything, now maybe trying to flip him on Podesta. There may be something on Flynn, he filed FARA retroactively after he got “caught” so there’s a big web to look at..


187 posted on 10/30/2017 6:30:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: yield 2 the right

Just heard the Judge on Fox Business say the indictment covers a time period thru the fall of 2016, after he was no longer leading the President’s campaign, so there might be enough for those anti-Trump people to jaw about, for weeks, months, years ...


188 posted on 10/30/2017 6:30:57 AM PDT by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: PghBaldy

BTTT


189 posted on 10/30/2017 6:31:51 AM PDT by fedupjohn (The Alpha Male Chosen By The People to #MAGA....President Trump...)
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To: RummyChick; Ray76

Just looked at a thread from July. Not a single person thought manafort would go down with the possible exception of ray76 who said he was sleazy and again brought up tad devine


190 posted on 10/30/2017 6:31:53 AM PDT by RummyChick
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The blow-back on Dems potential of Mueller charging Manafort keep getting better and better.


Nope, this is bad for Trump I fear, Dems and the swamp are too big to drain and too smart at getting the attention away from them and their shenanigans..Dems and the left always seem to end up victorious even when our side supposedly wins...I hope I am wrong and just knee jerking....


191 posted on 10/30/2017 6:32:09 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Golden Eagle

The Mueller is working for Trump theory is teetering and falling.

The Mueller is desperately trying to save his own ass with an offensive appears to be the winner of the day.

I’m not sure that Mueller has helped himself here. He may just be trying to keep his paychecks coming for an extra year or two.


192 posted on 10/30/2017 6:33:50 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: SE Mom

Its a possibility. He dealt with people that kill entire families. Any hint that he is flipping on anything could cause him problems

That said...an indictment does NOT mean the person did not flip.


193 posted on 10/30/2017 6:34:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SE Mom

“there’s a big web to look at..”

https://www.justice.gov/file/1007271/download

Indictment:

From 2008 to 2014 MANAFORT caused the following wires, totaling over $12,000,000,


194 posted on 10/30/2017 6:37:55 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Travis McGee; LS; Liz; Alberta's Child

fox news just broadcast summary of 12 count indictment to include:

1. conspiracy against the United States
2. conspiracy to launder money
3. Failure to file - unregistered agent of foreign country
4. False & misleading statements on FARA registration
5 - 12. False statements re: dealing with foreign banks

lot’s more respect for court reporters.

that’s close to what was stated on fox news this am


195 posted on 10/30/2017 6:38:38 AM PDT by thinden
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To: relee
If Manafort was filing false documents about his dealings as a foreign lobbyist, then the Trump campaign actually comes off as a victim here. In fact, it gives them a whole lot of plausible deniability about him.

Think about it ...

"When we vetted him before bringing him onto the campaign, his FARA paperwork was all in order."

196 posted on 10/30/2017 6:39:29 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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So Trump, even he stays as POTUS, may always have to watch his back due to “Special Investigations” for the remainder of his Presidency..?
The swamp may be too big to drain I fear...
I need some hope and reassurance that Trump will be able to get his mandate in enforced and fix this nation...


197 posted on 10/30/2017 6:40:08 AM PDT by yield 2 the right
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To: Travis McGee

Just read the indictment. It has ZERO to do with ANYTHING Trump.


198 posted on 10/30/2017 6:40:21 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative
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To: RummyChick
LS has been saying for months that Trump and his inner circle were in the clear, but they feared that some of their former associates (Manafort and Flynn in particular) might be in trouble.

I don't know what thread you checked, but I never had a good feeling about Manafort as soon as I learned about how far back his dealings in the Beltway extended. This guy was "The Swamp" personified.

199 posted on 10/30/2017 6:41:25 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: ArtDodger

I think we can truly and finally come to the conclusion that Jeff Sessions is a complete worthless piece of s**t.

He’s got to go. It’s WAY past time. He’s responsible for this ridiculous mess and worse, has completely removed himself from anything relating to TRUE Russian collusion.

Donald Trump, stop Tweeting losers for help. You alone can control this. FIRE SESSIONS NOW!!!


200 posted on 10/30/2017 6:42:42 AM PDT by Magnatron
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