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To: jazusamo

I understand the anger at the PC censors, but I wouldn’t mind too much if it were changed to “To care for those who shall have borne the battle and for their widows, and orphans.”

It’s really only a modest translation, not a full-bodied re-write.


4 posted on 11/02/2017 10:20:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

But “widows” is gender specific. Spouse? Significant other? Partner? And I’m not sure about “orphans.” That has to be insensitive to somebody. Maybe “parentless children”?


7 posted on 11/02/2017 10:23:24 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: dangus
But that's not what Lincoln said, and furthermore, don't give an inch to these despicable people.

Not One.

10 posted on 11/02/2017 10:24:39 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: dangus

“borne the battle”

Why change “burden” to battle?

“borne the burden” is a trope Lincoln got from the Bible.

And when Lincoln made the statement, no women were in battle, so to change it would be inaccurate and gutless.


11 posted on 11/02/2017 10:25:33 AM PDT by odawg
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To: dangus

But totally pointless and uncalled for, considering that even in today’s heavily gender-integrated military the number of women killed and wounded is totally miniscule compared to the number of men. No matter what the left pretends war is still very much the domain of men.


12 posted on 11/02/2017 10:26:09 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: dangus

I wouldn’t mind too much if it were changed to “To care for those who shall have borne the battle and for their widows, and orphans.”

It’s really only a modest translation, not a full-bodied re-write.


But that is simply *not* what Lincoln said.

You follow that path, you better rewrite Neil Armstrong’s words, “That’s one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.”

...and Shakespeare, “Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears”.


16 posted on 11/02/2017 10:31:30 AM PDT by Flick Lives (The FBI is a taxpayer funded Mafia organization)
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To: dangus
Except that it would no longer be a quote.

Ever play the game "telephone"?

19 posted on 11/02/2017 10:33:39 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (High taxes + Government = Disorganized Crime)
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To: dangus
I wouldn’t mind too much if it were changed ...
You give an inch, they'll take a mile. We're at war with the Left - take NO prisoners.
22 posted on 11/02/2017 10:43:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: dangus
"It’s really only a modest translation, not a full-bodied re-write."

Are those the words of President Lincoln, or not? If you don't see the problem, you're part of it.

24 posted on 11/02/2017 11:24:34 AM PDT by semaj (Audentes fortuna juvat: Fortune favors the bold. Be Bold FRiends.)
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To: dangus

Widowed spouses


27 posted on 11/02/2017 11:44:30 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: dangus

dangus wrote:
I understand the anger at the PC censors, but I wouldn’t mind too much if it were changed to “To care for those who shall have borne the battle and for their widows, and orphans.”

It’s really only a modest translation, not a full-bodied re-write.

However, it’s not what Pres. Lincoln said, so it’s not a quote. Now, if they want to remove it as a quote, and put it as a general mission (ugh, new agey “Mission Statement”), then fine. But it’s not a quote from Pres. Lincoln anymore.

“If it’s on the internet, it must be true” - William Shakespeare


30 posted on 11/02/2017 12:33:28 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: dangus
No.

No, rewrite. Modest or not. He said what he said. History should not be subject to the delicate little feelings of the easily offended.

31 posted on 11/02/2017 12:33:35 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: dangus

Abraham Lincoln wrote it the way he wanted to say it.
Neither you (or me), nor anyone else has earned the right to re-write it.
If you want some PC quote for the ages, sit down and write your own.


33 posted on 11/02/2017 1:34:56 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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