[Aliska]

Oh, and I look at maps of N. Africa and am almost certain humans are causing the desert. Also, the holy land once had a lot of trees; Josephus account tells of the Romans cutting the last ones down to burn Jerusalem and the temple. Then Saudi, Iraq, those countries may have once been almost a paradise and more fertile. Just a little knowledge mixed with conjecture.

[chiller]

Not to mention Hannibal who crossed the Alps on horseback.

[rktman]

So, what was growing where the giant redwoods are before the giant redwoods?