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With new clout, Virginia Democrats to push for gun control
The Roanoke Times ^ | December 7, 2017 | Sarah Rankin

Posted on 12/13/2017 9:45:12 AM PST by Perseverando

RICHMOND — Days after Virginia Democrats’ astounding Election Day successes, one of the state’s most influential gun rights groups sent a warning to its members.

“Gun control will be coming at us hard and heavy,” the Virginia Citizens Defense League said in an email with the subject line “2017 Elections and the path ahead.”

With the Democrats gaining clout, the group said, it expects a push for legislation in Virginia to implement universal background checks, ban assault weapons and restrict handgun purchases.

The Defense League has urged members to reach out to non-gun owners to boost ownership and take off work for a lobbying day in January.

Democrats swept all three statewide offices and picked up at least 15 Virginia House seats, nearly wiping out the Republicans’ overwhelming majority.

Meanwhile, the GOP controls the Senate 21-19, which would make getting landmark legislation through both chambers difficult. Still, lawmakers said they expect movement on gun-control measures that could attract bipartisan support.

Guns are a perennial issue in this swing state that is home to the National Rifle Association’s headquarters — in Fairfax County — and site of one of the country’s deadliest mass shootings — Virginia Tech in 2007.

Nationally, gun-control advocates point to election night outcomes in Virginia and elsewhere, New Jersey and Washington state included, as a sign of momentum heading into next year’s midterm elections.

In November, “voters proved that they were willing to vote on the issue of gun safety ... Make no mistake: Heading into the 2018 midterm elections, the momentum is on the side of the gun violence prevention movement,” said one gun control group, Moms Demand Action, in a statement.

The NRA didn’t respond to interview requests from The Associated Press.

Jeff Ryer, a spokesman for Virginia’s Senate Republican caucus, said he expects lots of gun-control legislation to be filed. But he doubts much would pass.

David Hancock, manager of gun seller Bob Moates Sport Shop in the Richmond-area suburb of Midlothian, echoed that sentiment.

“We’re not expecting any major changes right away,” he said.

But Democrats say the sea change means they’ll have more committee representation, more sway in general and in some cases might need just one Republican vote to secure a gun measure’s passage.

For Del. Kathleen Murphy, who represents parts of two Northern Virginia counties, gun control is personal.

Her brother was shot to death during a robbery, and she doesn’t want another family to go through what hers did. She plans to reintroduce a bill that would make a second conviction for domestic abuse a felony, making those convicted unable to own guns. It’s the type of common sense measure that has failed before but might have a chance this year, she said.

“I don’t understand the refusal of people on the other side to recognize that we can do something in a bipartisan way to make guns safer and to make our children and families safer from gun violence without harming people’s right to carry arms,” she said.

Del. John Bell, another Northern Virginia Democrat and an Air Force veteran, said he plans to introduce several gun-related bills after campaigning heavily on the issue. One would require in-person training to obtain a concealed handgun permit. Currently, training can be done online or by video.

Another proposal already filed would ban bump stocks, the device used by a gunman who opened fire in Las Vegas, killing 58 people in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

Pressure could also come from Charlottesville, which is grappling with the aftermath of a white nationalist rally this summer that descended into chaos.

Virginia law doesn’t allow localities to implement restrictions on firearms during special events, and many attendees at the rally were heavily armed.

Charlottesville plans to push for legislation that would change that, City Manager Maurice Jones said at a city council meeting Monday.

Gun-control bills would likely get a receptive audience with Gov.-elect Ralph Northam, an Army veteran who supports universal background checks and an assault weapons ban. His campaign received nearly $1.4 million from former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s Everytown for Gun Safety.

Exit polling from Nov. 7 shows gun legislation was near the top of Virginia voters’ minds.

In polling conducted for The Washington Post and other media organizations, voters ranked gun policy second only to health care out of five issues they said matter most in decided how they voted in the governor’s race.

Among the 17 percent of voters who said gun policy mattered most, 49 percent said they voted for Northam, who has an F rating from the NRA, and 49 for Gillespie, who has an A rating. The poll’s overall margin of error was plus or minus four percentage points.

Philip Van Cleave, president of the pro-gun Defense League, said he thinks many gun owners had become complacent but won’t be after this election.

“It has woken up gun owners big time,” he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; northam; va2017; vageneralassembly; vcdl; virginia
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To: SkyDancer

It is much, much, MUCH easier to ban sales of certain types of firearms (and that’s iffy in terms of enforcement) than it is to confiscate what are already in private hands.

CA, MA, CT, NY, NJ, HI, & MD are the bluest of the blue states and have passed ex post facto assault weapons bans (making illegal what had been legal). These laws have been flouted by the vast majority of semi-auto owners in those states, even where firearms owner ID cards are mandatory.

Four starred senior state cops have huffed & puffed on TV “Don’t make me send out my boys to knock on doors!” and then walked back their threats. Ominous letters have been sent to owners & then it’s “Letter? What letter?” from the powers that be.

Ultraliberal Hawaii sent letters to thirty (30!) medical marijuana card holders ordering them to turn in their guns within 30 days. Now, that order “is under review”.

The definition of stupid legislation is passing laws that no one will obey and that no one wants to have to enforce.

NCIS gun buyer checks continue to break records. The culture war against liberty didn’t end with the retirement of Obama. Distrust of government minions & their intentions is real and for the citizen, means backing up his/her freedom by means of arms, just as the Founders intended.


21 posted on 12/13/2017 12:22:02 PM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: elcid1970

I foresee lots of tragic boating accidents in those blue states should they get really serious about confiscation.


22 posted on 12/13/2017 12:35:15 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Perseverando; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; ...

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23 posted on 12/13/2017 1:11:55 PM PST by PROCON (Merry Christmas and Happy Trump Year!)
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To: SkyDancer

They don’t say how because it would be too much at once. What they want is Australian style total confiscation. You can’t reason with antiguners because their position is not based on reason or logic. You can’t bargain with them because they have nothing to offer, and if a bargain is foolishly struck with them they immediately try and get rid of the “loopholes” that were part of the deal. They have no sympathy for another point of view and the never stop, ever. The only three endgames are: total confiscation from everyone who is not a government agent (their desired outcome and welcome to a police state that makes the old Soviet Union look like a bastion of freedom) or they kill enough of us for “resisting arrest” so that they win or we kill enough of them and their jackbooted thugs so as to postpone the problem for a generation.

Why do you think so many police departments snapped up MRAPS? They are instruments to control an armed civilian population. They see a conflict coming where a certain fraction of the population is not going to meekly hand in their guns and they want the advantage because the police are sure not going to defend the bill of rights. (Think self forging projectiles if you think that MRAPS are too tough for citizens)


24 posted on 12/13/2017 1:40:15 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Perseverando
... For Del. Kathleen Murphy, who represents parts of two Northern Virginia counties, gun control is personal.

Her brother was shot to death during a robbery, and she doesn’t want another family to go through what hers did. She plans to reintroduce a bill that would make a second conviction for domestic abuse a felony, making those convicted unable to own guns. It’s the type of common sense measure that has failed before but might have a chance this year, she said. ...

Maybe Kathleen Murphy should focus on tougher penalties for armed robbery, you know, because it's personal?

25 posted on 12/13/2017 2:18:20 PM PST by relee (Till the blue skies drive the dark clouds far away)
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To: from occupied ga
Well as they said "keep your powder dry" - it's interesting to me since I'm an FFDO (federal flight deck officer ) to go to places like Chicago, NYC carrying (but not outside the terminal security area) but just to have it with me there it's a snub to them.

As for Australia, those guns that were turned in were junk. You had better believe that there as some good ones held back.

26 posted on 12/13/2017 2:28:13 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
I’m leaving Virginia before they get to registration.

I was stationed here in Virginia back in 1992 and retired here because of my job. I have always intended to return to my home state and it is convenient that my wife can retire in two years so we will be gone before the DemComs (Democrat/Communists) can completely take over.

27 posted on 12/13/2017 3:14:11 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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