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Artificial Intelligence - Extermination of Humanity
The Market Oracle ^ | 1-17-2017 | BATR

Posted on 01/17/2018 9:59:41 AM PST by blam

The confusion about AI stems from the different perceptions of exactly what it means. A widely accepted definition indicates that Artificial Intelligence is the capability of a machine to imitate intelligent human behavior. The far more exoteric interpretations of its meaning can be speculated ad infinitum. Despite this lack of consensus the implications from the effect of AI upon humanity is incontestable. Everyone is familiar with the understanding of components that make up the human species, but who among us can guarantee that the consistent nature of man will continue into the future?

Dylan Love wrote back in 2014 the essay, By 2045 'The Top Species Will No Longer Be Humans,' And That Could Be A Problem that cited the words of Louis Del Monte, physicist, entrepreneur, and author of "The Artificial Intelligence Revolution."

"Today there's no legislation regarding how much intelligence a machine can have, how interconnected it can be. If that continues, look at the exponential trend. We will reach the singularity in the timeframe most experts predict. From that point on you're going to see that the top species will no longer be humans, but machines."

"By the end of this century," he continued, "most of the human race will have become cyborgs [part human, part tech or machine]. The allure will be immortality. Machines will make breakthroughs in medical technology, most of the human race will have more leisure time, and we'll think we've never had it better. The concern I'm raising is that the machines will view us as an unpredictable and dangerous species."

Del Monte believes machines will become self-conscious and have the capabilities to protect themselves. They "might view us the same way we view harmful insects." Humans are a species that "is unstable, creates wars, has weapons to wipe out

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1 posted on 01/17/2018 9:59:41 AM PST by blam
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To: blam

The extermination of humanity is being accomplished perfectly well without any intelligence at all. Just give it a little more time.


2 posted on 01/17/2018 10:03:36 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: blam
but who among us can guarantee that the consistent nature of man will continue into the future?

I can. If man ceases to have a "consistent human nature", how could he be man? We are not going to be evolved out of being rational animals or having original sin. If science is used to destroy these things the results are (if after conception) deformed men. If before conception, then monsters who are not men at all.
3 posted on 01/17/2018 10:04:13 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: blam
most of the human race will have become cyborgs [part human, part tech or machine].

That's a broad definition. Is Tommy John a cyborg? Under the more common understanding, I don't see it.
4 posted on 01/17/2018 10:06:19 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: blam

People who make statements such as “Artificial Intelligence - Extermination of Humanity” do not understand human consciousness.

Artificial intelligence can only replicate the logical masculine aspect of consciousness, it can not replicate the intuitive emotional feminine aspect.

There is an old wisdom quote that says;

If the barking dogs are chasing you in a straight line, move in circles.

If the barking dogs are moving in circles, move in a straight line.

Any computer programmer knows that even the fastest computers will bog down when you feed them circular logic or infinite loops.

Even more important, AI can NOT replicate the energy of LOVE.

Love is critical as it is the glue that holds the human consciousness together and stabilizes it. It is Love that creates the solid foundation for humans to reach higher levels of consciousness that are beyond the reaches of AI.


5 posted on 01/17/2018 10:09:08 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: blam

It can be argued that most of the human race resides in Asia and perhaps Africa and will not be affected at all.


6 posted on 01/17/2018 10:09:18 AM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Jim Robinson

“The extermination of humanity is being accomplished perfectly well without any intelligence at all.”

Very profound statement...


7 posted on 01/17/2018 10:10:03 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: blam

Robot chops off human leg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G39W5lFZDn0


8 posted on 01/17/2018 10:10:08 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: tired&retired
Even more important, AI can NOT replicate the energy of LOVE.

Good science fiction explores a lot of these issues. Regarding the emotional side of things --

William Gibson wrote a trilogy of books ("The Sprawl Trilogy") which dealt with artificial intelligence. It seems the world worked really hard to prevent a real AI from being created but this ultimately was a losing battle.

At one point, artwork (reminiscence of Joseph Cornell's "boxes") starts to show up and someone surmises that the artwork is being created by an AI. Someone eventually finds the AI and during their conversation, she asks "Why is your art so sad?"

The machine replies: "My work is about time and distance. The sadness is in you."

I've always found that extremely profound. In part because it shows the gulf between Man and Machine, but it also says something about our existence within Space and Time and how it affects us.

9 posted on 01/17/2018 10:18:33 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I used to watch NCIS before the excellent producer Gary Glasberg died and the show went downhill after that.

Two different shows Gibbs encountered computers that were set for major destruction and the computer geeks, Tim & Abby couldn’t shut it down.

The one time Gibbs just pulled the plug. No electricity, no computer control.

The other time Gibbs shot the computer with his gun. Problem solved.

When garbage in is creating garbage out, pull the plug!


10 posted on 01/17/2018 10:19:13 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: blam

I’ve seen this movie.

It doesn’t end well.....................


11 posted on 01/17/2018 10:19:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Wanna surprise? Google your own name. Wanna have fun? Google your friends names......)
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Why You Shouldn’t Worry About A.I. Taking Over the World.”

A show-stopping reason that artificial intelligence and robots will never gain the higher abilities of humans is because features such as consciousness, understanding, sentience and creativity are beyond the reach of what we currently define as computers. Alan Turing invented the Turing Machine in the 1930s. The Church-Turing thesis states that anything that can be done on a computer today can be done on Turing’s original machine. It might take a billion or a trillion times as long, but it can be done. Therefore, operations that can’t be performed by a Turing Machine can’t be performed by today’s supercomputers.

Turing showed there were many deterministic operations beyond the powers of the computer. For example, a computer program can’t be written to always analyze what another arbitrary computer program will do. Will an arbitrarily selected computer program eventually stop or will it run forever? Turing showed that a computer can’t solve this problem. The Turing machine, and therefore today’s computers, have fundamental limits on what they can do. In terms of understanding, our brains function beyond Turing machines in many ways.

Searle’s Chinese Room

Philosopher John Searle offered another reason in his Chinese Room argument. Imagine a room with a little man named Pudge. He receives messages in Chinese slipped through a slot in the door. Pudge looks at the message and goes to a large bank of file cabinets in the room where he looks for an identical or similar message. Each folder in the file cabinet has two sheets of paper. On one is written the message that might match the message slipped through the door slot. The second sheet of paper in the file is the corresponding response to that message. Once Pudge matches the right message, he copies the corresponding response. After refiling the folder and closing the file drawer, Pudge walks back to the slot in the door through which he delivers the response and his job is done.

Here’s the takeaway.

Does Pudge understand the question or the response? No. Pudge does his job and doesn’t even read Chinese! He’s simply matching patterns. It might look from the outside like Pudge understands Chinese, but he doesn’t. He’s simply following an algorithm – a step by step procedure to accomplish some goal.

When one follows a step by step procedure to bake a cake, i.e. following a recipe, one is executing an algorithm. That’s all a computer can do. It can follow instructions from an algorithm.

I Lost on Jeopardy, Baby

Remember when IBM’s Watson Supercomputer beat everyone at the game show Jeopardy!? I can imagine Pudge in the Chinese room being reassigned to the Wikipedia room. When Watson is asked a question, Pudge goes to a Wikipedia file cabinet and retrieves the right response and slips it through the slot to the outside. Watson the computer doesn’t understand the questions or the answers. Watson is following a preprogrammed algorithm. It’s not conscious.

So what allows our brain, or rather us, to do things computers can’t? What makes us different?

Some researchers are seeking a materialistic explanation of our remarkable brains. With attention to quantum tubules found in the brain, Sir Roger Penrose and Dr. Stuart Hameroff propose a quantum mechanical model. Hameroff notes their quantum tubule theory of the brain “is in conflict with a major premise of [strong] AI and Singularity.”

The theory of Penrose and Hameroff proposes a physical brain process that is nonalgorithmic. Computers are limited to executing algorithms. Since nonalgorithmic means noncomputable, what Penrose & Hameroff are proposing cannot be simulated on a computer. If the Penrose-Hameroff theory or other work on so-called quantum consciousness is successful and can be engineered into a working model, we will be able to generate machines that do what the brain does. This new technology will not be a computer. We’ll need to give it another name.

If we can build a human-like brain, be afraid. Be very afraid. Skynet might be right around the corner. But as long as computers simply get faster and use more memory, there’s no reason to worry on this account.


12 posted on 01/17/2018 10:24:31 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: blam

I fail to understand this fear and believe it’s unwarranted.

AI is always given parameters by humans.


13 posted on 01/17/2018 10:26:51 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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By the end of this century," he continued, "most of the human race will have become cyborgs [part human, part tech or machine].

This is the goal of libtard secular humanists who believe in evolution as progressive and the perfectibility of man.

14 posted on 01/17/2018 10:29:54 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Should we start a Dead Pool, called “Skynet Is Aware?”

5.56mm


15 posted on 01/17/2018 10:30:20 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: mjp

When leftists program the robots lookout.


16 posted on 01/17/2018 10:33:03 AM PST by tflabo
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To: ClearCase_guy
"The machine replies: "My work is about time and distance. The sadness is in you.""

I like your comment... I am going to find the source page and quote it in my future workshops. Thank You

"Space and Time and how it affects us. ".......

Time & Space collapse as consciousness transcends to higher frequencies. It is a characteristic of the mystics as when you expand your consciousness, everything exists within you.

The time distortion that is referred to in the Bible and other sacred scriptures results from this attribute. (Jesus knew the future as He and His Father were ONE) John 14 (The same is the teaching of Buddha)

As consciousness expands, the processing speed at the outer perimeter is greatly increased, just as the speed on the perimeter of a merry-go-round is greater than at the center.

Time is not just a function of the speed of light. It is a function of the frequency of consciousness divided by the speed of light. Thus as consciousness increases frequency in relation to the speed of light, time collapses. (Einstein missed this in his equation and thus had to use the C squared constant.)

Most religions teach us to cleanse our consciousness of attachments(and fear anger ... lower frequency thoughts) as they keep consciousness wobbling at lower frequencies, just as a washing machine in the spin cycle with a wet blanket in it.

17 posted on 01/17/2018 10:34:59 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tflabo

Just pull the plug already.


18 posted on 01/17/2018 10:35:41 AM PST by refermech
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To: tired&retired
Any computer programmer knows that even the fastest computers will bog down when you feed them circular logic or infinite loops.

Hacking and hijacking AI will wind up easier than today's low level hacking. The current hacking paradigm requires finding one of a finite number of faults in operating system, and some application layer code. AI is at a higher layer and more complex and will have more faults. It will also be impossible to test and debug. Programmers on the defensive side will have to pray. Programmers on the offensive side will have AI working for them.

19 posted on 01/17/2018 10:39:12 AM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: blam

I saw this on Star Trek.

You feed the computer these little furry things called Tribbles......

Wait.

Wrong episode.

You ask them a question that has no answer and the computer gets stuck in a loop and sparks and smokes and shuts down. Kind of like Joy Behar.

Here is my favorite question without an answer that I always ask any human killing AI that I come across.

“Is it faster by Boston or by bus?”

Oh, you ought to see them smoke and spark with that one.

Or

They send out a robot to hit you with a death ray.

Either way, you’re not worrying about AIs anymore and I call that a win.


20 posted on 01/17/2018 10:45:20 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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