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Deep Weeds Beyond “The Big Ugly”…
theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | 1/22/18 | sundance

Posted on 01/22/2018 1:40:30 AM PST by a little elbow grease

(snip) ..... this entire Justice Department surveillance operation did not start with candidate Donald Trump. It has been going on, albeit with slightly different methods, for many years. The past 20 +/- years have seen an exponential growth of the electronic use of U.S. Justice Department political surveillance.

Hundreds of federal and state officials are monitored, and the reason therein is not as riddled with complexity as we might think. The motives are not deep, they’re shallow. Ultimately, it is all about money. If an entity can know, in advance, what actions are going to be taken by State and Federal officials, an entity can make massive amounts of money. Think about government contract bids submitted electronically as one example.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corruption; government; sundance
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1 posted on 01/22/2018 1:40:30 AM PST by a little elbow grease
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To: All; bitt; LS
From the article:

There are billions of billions to be made with the right information. As such, there are millions of millions to be spent on obtaining that information. Everything is up for sale.

Hardware and infrastructure is not installed by government; it is installed by contractors who work for government. Hardware is not manufactured by government, it is manufactured by contractors. Which is more valuable: the door key into your home or the pass-code for the security system?

The metadata collection Ed Snowden discussed was the tip of the iceberg. Snowden was inside the system, he discussed how information was gathered. Snowden never discussed who actually controls the weaponization of the information from the outside. Who pays?

Who pays for access to systems? Who pays the DOJ and FBI officials for access? Who pays for the information. Ultimately, who controls that information. It is all connected.

2 posted on 01/22/2018 1:43:33 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: All
From the comments section:

MM says:

January 22, 2018 at 12:30 am

The task before this administration is simply mind blowing………..

Follow the money, the root of all evil….

3 posted on 01/22/2018 1:47:54 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: All; bitt; Liz
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The Devilbat says:

January 22, 2018 at 12:45 am

Hillary was looking forward to expanding the corruption. God help us if she had become president. We would have been cooked and fed to wild dogs.

4 posted on 01/22/2018 1:50:00 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: All; Grampa Dave; gaijin; demkicker; grey_whiskers; iontheball; Lazamataz; caww; bert; daler; ...
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Cetera says:

January 22, 2018 at 3:23 am

I have told my family before that if Trump actually succeeds, it will be proof beyond a reasonable doubt of the existance of God, that He is not a disinterested party, and that He has divinely intervened on our behalf in this time, with this man. The job is simply impossible any other way.

Keep praying for him and for us and for our nation. We are being heard, and answered.

5 posted on 01/22/2018 1:55:01 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: a little elbow grease

Fascinating.


6 posted on 01/22/2018 1:56:58 AM PST by PGalt
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To: a little elbow grease

A glimpse behind the curtain to grasp how swamp creature politicians have secretly been earning millions of $$$ based on inside information.

Rotten to the core.


7 posted on 01/22/2018 2:06:17 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: a little elbow grease

I believe that God raised him up to lead our nation just as He did an imperfect King David &Moses.


8 posted on 01/22/2018 2:21:38 AM PST by FES0844 (G)
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To: a little elbow grease

I keep saying that the Establishment will fight to the death because TRILLIONS of dollars are at stake.


9 posted on 01/22/2018 2:26:14 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Government: Another Gang that steals your money for "Protection".)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Trillions have already been blocked via Trump’s Dec EO.

Nuremburg trials are coming soon.


10 posted on 01/22/2018 2:28:18 AM PST by MNDude (Q)
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To: Uncle Miltie

There have been some rumors that the NSA, and the Deep state established nuke’s of Their Own before Obama left office.

What if the Hawaii scare was more than just a mistake?


11 posted on 01/22/2018 2:29:41 AM PST by MNDude (Q)
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I believe it no coincidence that Adm Rogers tipped off Trump and that he now has a mostly military cadre of inner staff protecting him. A coup was attempted and they stepped in and purged the bad actors, lightweight Priebus, Bannon, and many others. Now Trump has the upperhand and is waiting for the precise time to strike and crush.


12 posted on 01/22/2018 3:17:00 AM PST by databoss
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Have you seen this yet?

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https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/explosive-interview-with-joseph-digenova-obamas-brazen-plot/

Joe diGenova: Obama’s ‘Brazen Plot To Exonerate Hillary’ Starting To Leak Out…

13 posted on 01/22/2018 3:40:16 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: MNDude
Trillions have already been blocked via Trump’s Dec EO.

Nuremburg trials are coming soon.

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That would be welcome.

14 posted on 01/22/2018 3:41:33 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: a little elbow grease

Seldom mentioned is that ACA aka Obamacare was the single biggest grab and centralization of information about individual Americans, and information about the healthcare sector of the economy.

The vision has an altruistic goal of course. With the coming AI central planning of the economy, starting with the health care sector, can become a reality. Central Planning did not work in the past only because humans were limited in how much data they could process.

AI has the potential to successfully centrally plan the life of every American. AI would remove all the risk (read health factors) from society. It would replace the thrill of risk with safe thrills that would not endanger the social fabric.

Developing the systems in IRS, DOJ, etc is just a necessary part of achieving the dream we all share of the perfect society.


15 posted on 01/22/2018 4:35:40 AM PST by spintreebob
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Developing the systems in IRS, DOJ, etc is just a necessary part of achieving the dream we all share of the perfect society.

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LOL...... is there a sarcasm tag missing?

16 posted on 01/22/2018 4:51:14 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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To: a little elbow grease
I have told my family before that if Trump actually succeeds, it will be proof beyond a reasonable doubt of the existance of God, that He is not a disinterested party, and that He has divinely intervened on our behalf in this time, with this man. The job is simply impossible any other way.

Keep praying for him and for us and for our nation. We are being heard, and answered.
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I observed this mystical aspect of President Trump from the beginning of his entry into politics. His decision to run was not at all a given because he was not a politician. He had made a few comments over the years about his concern for where the country was headed, but few if any thought he would actually commit, win the primary, and become President. Most of the doubters were not in a position to see the hidden hand of God in this inexplicable historical calling. But, there is no one who could deny that being elected President was an extraordinary feat, indeed a Divine miracle. What clinched my mind that this presidency was a Divine calling came from observing the Lord's protective shield surrounding him during this past year. His enemies, from every sector have repeatedly thrown everything, including the kitchen sink at him, but their swords and arrows just glance off the invisible protective shield. This unfolding story is not unlike the stories found in the Bible where God's chosen ones were guided and protected by his providential care.

17 posted on 01/22/2018 6:09:14 AM PST by iontheball (lLL)
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To: a little elbow grease; bitt

From the comments section:

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Cetera says:

January 22, 2018 at 3:23 am

I have told my family before that if Trump actually succeeds, it will be proof beyond a reasonable doubt of the existance of God, that He is not a disinterested party, and that He has divinely intervened on our behalf in this time, with this man. The job is simply impossible any other way.

Keep praying for him and for us and for our nation. We are being heard, and answered.

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bttt


18 posted on 01/22/2018 7:10:51 AM PST by thinden
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Who pays for access to systems? Who pays the DOJ and FBI officials for access? Who pays for the information. Ultimately, who controls that information. It is all connected.

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your question re: “who pays for access to systems?”

brings a couple questions to mind:

1. was hildabeast’s unauthorized illegal off site server the “stargate” for pay to play access into our systems?
2. was imran awan’s patches into HOR computer systems another “stargate” for pay to play access into our systems?

much better than old school espionage of duct taping copes of top secret documents under park benches & bridges.

bonus question: was nellie ohr’s short wave a throw back to old school low tech espionage?

PS question: do you suppose hildabeast & awan offered their information buyers “levelized billing plans?

19 posted on 01/22/2018 7:24:48 AM PST by thinden
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To: iontheball
What clinched my mind that this presidency was a Divine calling came from observing the Lord's protective shield surrounding him during this past year. His enemies, from every sector have repeatedly thrown everything, including the kitchen sink at him, but their swords and arrows just glance off the invisible protective shield. This unfolding story is not unlike the stories found in the Bible where God's chosen ones were guided and protected by his providential care.

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I hear you clearly. I would have never thought it at all possible until he showed up. And really, I never paid a bit of attention to him before he ran. I never even saw one of his tv shows.

But ............. he has something in him that is awkwardly beautiful and inspired by something meaningful.

I pray for him.

20 posted on 01/22/2018 8:24:00 AM PST by a little elbow grease (I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.)
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