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I dunno. If this is what Trump is offering now, it seems reasonable to think he will offer (or give up) even more in order to get to a final deal.
1 posted on 01/27/2018 9:26:42 PM PST by be-baw
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Who in their right mind would ever offer the doubling of illegals to gain citizenship? He’s been great but to consummate this would end his presidency. Bad. As he would say.


2 posted on 01/27/2018 9:32:23 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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Yep, the Party of the Non-Working Class is only interested in Obstructio of Social Justice.


3 posted on 01/27/2018 9:32:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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Yep, the Party of the Non-Working Class is only interested in Obstruction of Social Justice.


4 posted on 01/27/2018 9:33:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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The Dems are totally boxed in on this issue.

They've already rejected this new deal by Trump and you know damn well Trump isn't going to give them blanket amnesty so there'll be another gubmint shutdown and deportations will commence.

If the Dems would've accepted this it's not enough to swell the voting ranks and Trump's other priorities will put the kibbosh on the other stuff. Also I think conservatives would've melted the phone lines and DACA deal would have died in the House.

I just don't understand how politicians can put the concerns and needs of illegal aliens or the children of illegals ahead of taxpaying U.S. citizens.

5 posted on 01/27/2018 9:34:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (God Bless Attorney General Jeff Sessions! Thank You!)
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Nope....he knows that the Dems won’t take the deal. He tripled the amount of DACA and they still won’t take it because they don’t want a border wall or end of chain migration or anything else. They want the Burger King deal....they want it their way...which is everything they want but no one else’s negotiations or deals. Run in 2018 on THIS!!!


7 posted on 01/27/2018 9:35:18 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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Missing so many details—E-Verify for one, end chain migration. Guess don’t need those points in a short Tweet. Dems won’t play ball so time for him to face an equally obstructive group, GOPe.


8 posted on 01/27/2018 9:35:34 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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“I dunno. If this is what Trump is offering now, it seems reasonable to think he will offer (or give up) even more in order to get to a final deal. “

LOL! You don’t understand. This puts Schumer and Pelosi in a big bind and will get enough dems to cross-over.


9 posted on 01/27/2018 9:37:30 PM PST by TexasGator (Z)
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Let’s not lose our heads. First these illegal aliens are already here and many are already voting. What is the total figure of illegal aliens in the US. Not just st DACA.

No WALL! No DACA!


11 posted on 01/27/2018 9:38:18 PM PST by Lopeover ( The 2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States!)
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And I always left wondering about the elephant in the room. If you explicit give amnesty to 870,000 to now 1,800,000 illegal aliens, does that mean the other 30-60 million are earmarked and subject to immediate no more catch-and-release deportation? The question needs to be faced, otherwise it is DACA today, some other group tomorrow. No, need an end. Final.


12 posted on 01/27/2018 9:38:22 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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I am rapidly coming to the conclusion that Trump is the Belichick of American politics. This is still early in the first half. Trump is just throwing options at the RINOS and DIMS to see how they react. He is keeping them on defense while he sees what they are capable of handling and what they are not. He is a million moves ahead of them

And remember, Trump is holding the winning hand. At the end of the day he can just let the clock run out on the Dreamers and start the deportations with the full Twitter-fed knowledge that he made a hundred different offers but Congress couldn't get their act together.

13 posted on 01/27/2018 9:39:19 PM PST by T. Rustin Noone (the angels wanna wear my red shoes......)
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I think he was saying he doubled the amount of daca people from 800,000 to 1,800,000.


14 posted on 01/27/2018 9:40:37 PM PST by JPII Be Not Afraid
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Since they don’t want to except just start deporting them and start with all the ones that line up protest


15 posted on 01/27/2018 9:42:53 PM PST by Lera (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To show that Democrats do not want to solve DACA, only use it!

So this is just a ploy? Hmm...

16 posted on 01/27/2018 9:43:47 PM PST by montag813
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doubling in the number of recipients & a twelve year pathway to citizenship

NO. Deport them.

19 posted on 01/27/2018 9:46:26 PM PST by donna (The American Dream is NOT for illegal aliens.)
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Trump is merely driving home the point of the “Trump David Accords”. The DNC and the GOPe are the reincarnation of Yasser ‘that’s my baby’ Arafat, they will accept no offer because they just want to be royals and they can’t get there without a peon class to rule.

Our President is about to pull the rug out from under them. Sometimes when buying a car you make an offer and the salesman counters, the goal is to meet somewhere in the middle, both sides benefit from a little give and take. The Dems are used to caver’s and misread our President. When the other side of the deal will not budge after a couple of reasonable offers, the you cut the original bid or walk away. I have never had a salesman NOT chase me down to take the lower bid after being STUPID over the first one.

President Trump is in the driver’s seat. Lying Ryan and Mitch the inept will be allowed to follow the President lead on the next shutdown. Mitch will go nuclear or move to Mr. Smith filibuster rules to force a vote on the President’s budget with all of his immigration goals and immediate funding for the wall. DACA is DOA and Dreamers will be escorted from the country.

Our economy will go on overdrive, Ryan and Mitch will be heroes, the pubbies sweep the midterms, then the perp walks begin. MAGA!


23 posted on 01/27/2018 10:00:30 PM PST by Billyv ( Freedom isn't Free! Get off the sidelines!)
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He will not give up ground, he will take ground. Once the dims pisseth (KJV) on his offer, it is off the table. If they accept his offer, (very unlikely,) it will come with strings. Or in Trumps case, steel cables.


25 posted on 01/27/2018 10:08:20 PM PST by D Rider
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Tucker Carlson’s guest last night, Julissa Arce, said “The President rescinded DACA”. Great news! If only she was right.
Segment starts at 4:32 and the false claim that DACA has been “rescinded” is at 5:10.

https://youtu.be/tktbu6YvGsI


28 posted on 01/27/2018 10:22:20 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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This is the final deal. If the Democrats don’t cave they’ll look like heartless hypocrites.


31 posted on 01/27/2018 10:30:13 PM PST by Crucial
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Re: “The Dems are totally boxed in on this issue.”

I disagree.

The Democrats won the Immigration Grand Prize years ago.

They don't have to do anything.

In 2017...

750,000 new immigrant citizens each year - 80% vote Democrat.

13 million Green Card immigrants waiting for citizenship.

1 million new Green Cards issued each year.

4 million approved Chain Migration immigrants waiting for Green Cards.

22 million LEGAL foreign-born voters - 80% Democrat.

Each year 500,000 more Republicans die than Democrats.

One half of 18 year old voters are non-white - 80% Democrat.

I was hoping that Trump would slow down America's political suicide.

Good luck with that fantasy.

33 posted on 01/27/2018 10:37:19 PM PST by zeestephen
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Trump played the RATs as well as some good folks on our side. He showed the world that Dreamers are not what the RATS really wanted. The RATS turned down a deal that doubled what they claimed they wanted and topped it off with citizenship. He also played Conservatives as well who thought he was caving in as so many RINO’s have done in the past. I wonder if Mark Levin is ready to eat some crow here?


34 posted on 01/27/2018 10:39:05 PM PST by Nateman (Who cares what the left says, it's usually a lie.)
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