Skip to comments.Principles, Schminciples - Lynch Mobs Are Cool If They Derail Trump
Posted on 02/12/2018 5:07:57 AM PST by Kaslin
The last couple months of success for Donald Trumps administration have the liberals and their Fredocon buddies in a panic. Its blocking their return to power. General John Kelly came into the White House as Chief of Staff and provided the much needed discipline that helped translate the Presidents vision into the most conservative run of achievements since Ronald Reagan. And that has to be stopped.
Kelly has to go, and to do that they have to change the subject. So, why not lie about this Gold Star father and military hero and try to use his own honor as a weapon to get him to quit, or maybe bamboozle Trump into firing him?
Now, it was only moments ago when liberals were pretending to respect Gold Star fathers and military heroes. That was baloney, as is everything that drips out of their lying kale-holes. One might expect more of the Quisling Cons, but the real focus of these Conservative, Inc., saps is on getting back their pathetic sinecures in the Beltway milieu. They babble on, endlessly, about principles, but when you cut through their endless posturing, posing, and smarmy virtue signaling, their principles are disposable whenever disposing of them helps get them what they want.
This time their scam involves Rob Porter, who has been credibly accused of beating up his ex-wives. Credibly accused is apparently the new True Conservative standard since the principle of having to actually prove someone guilty of something in a neutral forum where all sides get to provide their evidence and arguments is no longer a thing.
Except it is a thing, and shame on you for going along with this cheap witch-huntery.
Yes, Porter's ex-wives accuse him of various abuses which, if true, would make him a terrible person and a criminal. They are serious charges. But Rob Porter denies them, completely, and without reservation. He has worked with many people for years who have never seen any indication of any of this activity; they have seen the opposite.
Who do you believe?
I recall my mom, a judge who dealt with many kinds of cases, including family law, telling me two things when she swore me in in her courtroom. Number One was, Dont become one of those $%#%&@ LA lawyers. Well, I clearly did not listen to that. But I did listen to her second bit of advice: Everybody lies.
Thats pretty cynical, but its true. Criminals lie. Cops lie. Kids lie. Businesspeople lie. Wives lie. Husbands lie. Not all the time, not every time, but there is no category of people that never lies. In every case, there are two sides. At least one partys story is untrue.
So, who is lying here? The ex-wives? Porter? Maybe you feel comfortable crucifying those who choose to believe Porters denials, based on their knowledge of him, merely because he was accused. Well, I would expect that from liberals. But if this is now somehow conservatism, count me out.
Heres the issue his White House co-workers faced. Exes lie about each other and make up abuse claims all the time. That may or may not be happening here, but its not unreasonable to take that into account when being asked to blackball a co-worker who has demonstrated zero tendency toward such activities in the entire time you worked with him. There was apparently a police report but no charges this case has not been adjudicated in what used to be where we tried cases, court. I guess the new courtroom is social media.
Cue the liars to falsely accuse me of somehow defending spousal abuse simply because I dare to point out the perspective of Porters co-workers and to stand up for due process. So predictable, so lame.
And it was not a cut-and-dried perspective. Yes, there was a restraining order, but that is typically an ex parte proceeding a proceeding where the restrained party does not appear and offer his side of the story and the evidentiary standard is very low, as it should be. My mom used to issue these all the time. It simply keeps the parties apart for a while (though they can effect gun rights). It is not supposed to ruin their lives because it doesnt adjudicate anyhting.
Another White House staffer, David Sorensen, resigned after he was accused by an ex of abuse. Except he says she abused him. I spoke to a source who knows both of them personally; my source believes David. According to the WaPo, so does her bridesmaid and Sorensens first wife. And so did his ex, when she denied being abused during the divorce proceedings. But regardless, I thought we believed the victims? Oh wait, is that true only if their plumbing is correct, and if they help create a narrative that undercuts Trump?
To quote Ray Donavan, where does he go to get his reputation back? Or is David Sorensen just another example of acceptable collateral damage in the liberals and conservafrauds campaign to destroy Trump and get their power and prestige back?
Pardon me if Im spoiling the lynch party, but Im old school conservative. I think if you want to punish someone you need to prove your charges in a forum where the accused gets to tell his side of the story. Sorry if that gets in the way of your short-term partisan advantage, but Im committed to blind justice no matter how uncool and inconvenient you think it is.
Except this has nothing to do with justice. This manufactured outrage over Porter is a perversion of the right of due process into one where credible accusations they are always credible if they help the liberal or Fredocon agendas are enough to trash third party political opponents who refuse to play along. This whole uproar is designed not to deal with Porter, who none of us heard of before the media needed to change the subject last week, but to try to stop Trumps momentum. They want Kelly out because it will hurt Trump and his administration and maybe bring chaos back to the White House.
They want that, desperately.
They dont care about beating up women they all voted for President You'd Better Put Some Ice On That and his abuse-enabler wife. Nor could allegedly spousal abusing Democrat Senators Sherrod Brown and Tom Carper be reached for comment, which is sad because Brown denies his exs claims (Carper admits slapping his wife). They ought to at least be men enough to stand up and say that Rob Porter and David Sorenson deserve a chance to give their sides of their stories, but nah.
The liberals and their pet conservatives howl that Trump wished Porter well as he left his job should Trump have joined in the Two Minute Hate too? And then they were infuriated that he tweeted in support of due process nice look, libs and GimpCons. Well, no matter what Trump does theyll whine, so who cares?
Its their slander of Kelly that is so despicable because its so transparently false and self-serving. They cant, or wont, even articulate what they are accusing John Kelly of doing. Come on, posers, say it!
No, instead they try to obscure their bogus accusations in a fog of ambiguity, claiming that the White House is an environment where women are undervalued or disrespected or some baloney. They are never clear, on purpose they want to imply what they are too cowardly to say outright.
Are you saying John Kelly approves of beating up women? Come on, you gutless weasels, go out there and say that.
Look like the lying hacks you are.
If hes innocent, it sucks that Rob Porter has to clear his name of these accusations. If hes not, the hell with him. The same with David Sorenson. But if John Kelly resigns over this, over doing nothing wrong, then he has allowed his decency to be twisted and manipulated by those who have none to get what they cant get through the ballot box another step toward regaining their power.
And if President Trump fires Kelly, or anyone else, he lets his enemies win. What is rewarded gets repeated. He must draw the line here, or they will laugh at him as they gleefully destroy his administration.
They sure did.
So what was okay for WJC is a no-no for Trump’s aids? I’m just trying to keep up...
Heritage Foundation pushes free trade. Not really interested in them until that changes.....
Right out of Saul Alinski’s 12 rules the libs always follow:
RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entitys very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. Its irrational. Its infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
The libs have been using this type of action since the 1950’s. It’s not new. And two of the biggest followers of ol’ Saul are Barrack Obama and Hilly Clinton. Hil even did one of her minor thesis in college on him and contacted him for information personally. What a surprise.
Very good rant. I suspect Trump will hang tough on Kelly. Hed better.
Democrats with any level of power see rules and laws as nothing more than weapons to be used against people they don’t like or agree with.
They know that rules and laws are rarely applied equally and almost never against them.
I believe he will too.
The Kelly scandal.
I’ve been in an argy-bargy with some angry Democrat feministas over this on Facebook.
Satan is testing both Kelly and Trump. That’s how I see it.
I don’t know if the accusations are so much even wrong as wrongheaded. I wonder whether something really has been going on to the low-down between Kelly and his S.O.’s. And as sordid as it would have been, at least it was private. Till one of those partners changed her mind.
BUT. This is the world that the free-love Democrats bequeathed us. The feministas cannot have it both ways. They just can’t. Either it’s legal or it isn’t. And this kind of mindset isn’t new. I remember Ann Landers in the sixties saying that consensual S&M was just fine. But to God it isn’t just fine. It invites Satan and he doesn’t belong in the party.
Kelly needs to get clean spiritually and morally. If he’s been in love with “crack that whip,” maybe that was good in one way in that it focused Trump. But too much of it isn’t good, and Satan isn’t happy until it’s way, way too much.
Again this is all hypothesis here, and I’d be tickled pink to find out that Kelly wasn’t even in this kind of position. But we see it in the world, and if God really is to bless America like Donald Trump asked Him to, some cleansing and healing will need to take place.
Kelly and Trump need to hew to God before all else.
Kelly hasn’t committed the unforgivable sin here.
However, I perceive there’s a lot of mean-a-holism bouncing around in both the Democrat and Republican parties — in fact in America in general.
Sometimes it’s not the right time or place to answer your neighbor with a barbed wire fence and machine guns.
I think it’s right to give Kelly his full opportunity in court. However, if it turns out that his defense is not that his wives didn’t get banged up but that it was consensual, we need to learn a deep lesson from this. We’ve been in love with something Satan smuggled deep down among us. We need to let Jesus be an enemy of that something, to come between us and the sin. This is going to look like something new, we’ve been so used to the old.
If you ask me all this fuss is just more reason why, You get married and STAY married. A culture of serial monogamy is not much better than serial anonymous hook ups, maybe even worse.
When Satan has been punking us, we need to start leaning on Christ. Donald Trump asked God to bless America. Could we dare to believe that this is one way He is. By bringing this kind of thing to light until the answer is obvious.
Dear Lord please help us not stoop anymore to Satan's games.
Your hypothesis aids only Satan and his cohorts. You do not know General Kelly, nor do you know his ex wives. Nevertheless, you choose to spread the “possibility” theory that he “may” be guilty and therefore cause doubt in weak people’s minds. Best demand the accused have a chance to be heard. Until then, best be silent instead of try to think for others.
The Kelly “Scandal” is fabricated. There is no “Scandal” until proof is shown.
All sins compromise in one fashion or another.
And yet we need something even more important than “principles.” We need a living Lord. Without that, we don’t have any power by which to get the “principles” to stick in our lives and societies.
The way America was founded is much more dependent upon Christian principles than the more secular states of the world. We have vigorous talk about rights that don’t make much sense if they are selfish things, but make all the sense in creation if they are means by which we may serve God.
How can it aid “only” Satan if in fact it is the best match to the visible phenomena?
You need to watch that you aren’t harboring some of that kind of sin too.
And I say doubt every man, but believe on God.
Did not Kelly get denied a security clearance? Why would that happen? Unless something blackmailable was going on. Homosexuality used to be that way.
Sometimes we DO need to be Sherlock Holmes. Just because the tentative conclusion isn’t in our political favor doesn’t mean we don’t need to look into it. Cleansing begins at home.
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