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US universities urged to shut Confucius Institutes
sigh er education.com ^ | May 2, 2017 | Elizabeth Redden

Posted on 02/13/2018 8:38:28 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

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To: JimRed

There is enough in Confucianism that points in the general direction of gospel philosophy that it is not as jarring a step as it is from a number of other pagan philosophies.


21 posted on 02/13/2018 9:17:06 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I think people miss out allot if they've never read Confucius or The Art of War by Sun Tzu. Even just for the entertainment value. It is not logical to be against studying Chinese or Russian culture. Certainly not these days.

If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; General Tsu

22 posted on 02/13/2018 9:19:25 AM PST by Daaave ("the flesh eating jinn of Komari")
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To: PGR88
"Its ironic because US universities are already high on the scale of totalitarian thought control and uniformity of opinion."

US universities: Diversity without a difference.

23 posted on 02/13/2018 9:22:43 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: goldstategop

YEah, and they could also be schools for turning out deep embed spies into our system, much like the CIA already does with the college population, and would in China if they could.


24 posted on 02/13/2018 9:26:38 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I've never heard of this either. But I will say, I'm sick of foreign influence in America, especially schools. Change the name to the Stalin Institutes, or Hitler Institute and see if it raises an eyebrow. Every course, every philosophy is now Marxist with a nice name. No matter how it's introduced, our children are brainwashed into being little commies. Someone explain the Bernie Sanders phenom otherwise.

The truth is everything is fair game now except the Constitution, Christianity, and capitalism. If you studied the Founding Fathers, you saw that they set up the country on these 3 principles and wanted to turn out good citizens by teaching these themes.

Today's student hates capitalism, believes there is no God, and doesn't see the Second Amendment, yet swears the Forth Amendment says babies can be murdered and there is no 9th and 10th Amendment. There are students today that long to mimic Venezuela or Cuba. No one has even told them why their Che T shirt is an abomination.

China is a communist hell hole, yet they seem to be here to brainwash our youth? What possible thing could we learn from Confucius that we couldn't learn from Jesus Christ? This reminds me of the little red books the Beatles flashed around back in the day. Did anyone ever tell them of the millions he murdered? Does Bernie understand the millions Stalin killed and all the world misery he caused?

If these Confucius Institutes are like some "women's studies" classes, then so be it. They can waste their time and money if they choose to, but if it is more sinister, they need to be shut down and the people sent home. Frankly I don't trust it. The Chinese know less than George Washington, I'm sure. If they draw pictures of flowers all day, well, that's their choice. How do we study Mohamed and Allah, Buddha, Confucius, and others, and leave out Jesus? Copying the life of Jesus would be more constructive even to a non believer than any earth bound man.

25 posted on 02/13/2018 9:28:16 AM PST by chuckles
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To: ilovesarah2012

If the goal is to build positive, peaceful, people-to-people relationships with China, then it’s a huge mistake to close these.


26 posted on 02/13/2018 9:29:27 AM PST by Chengdu54
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To: ilovesarah2012

Agree. The Chinese here are much more numerous these days. Look at those who buy US citizenship. Look at the Chinese American CIA type who sold out to the Chinese. Make no mistake who runs these. We damn sure did not allow the KGB on campuses.


27 posted on 02/13/2018 9:33:51 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: chuckles

I don’t particularly cotton to the idea of trying to teach a “secular Jesus.”

Go long or go home. Preach the gospel, not a philosophy.


28 posted on 02/13/2018 9:34:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Chengdu54

The problem seems to be the choke hold of the Communist Chinese government.

What would you bet they are taught in Chinese too, not in (or with) English translation, making it difficult or impossible for Westerners to understand what is going on?

This isn’t even going to look like good Confucianism. It will look at best like Confucius under Marx’s torturing choke-hold.


29 posted on 02/13/2018 9:36:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: littleharbour

You get it.


30 posted on 02/13/2018 9:37:30 AM PST by Lumper20
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To: ilovesarah2012

What would Confucius say?????


31 posted on 02/13/2018 9:48:54 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: Chengdu54

And if it is a subversive plot to move young people to accepting more Chinese influence and control?


32 posted on 02/13/2018 9:51:26 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

IF the Chinese government is only allowing the colleges to staff these with people that the Chinese government have screened then it must stop.

No one should be dictating to OUR colleges who staffs them.

If it is tied to funding received from the Chinese government then it is no different then the screening that is done for other private chairs, positions, and scholarships funded by private money and federal/state funds currently.

You wants the money you pay the price.

We don’t need their money in that case.


33 posted on 02/13/2018 9:53:33 AM PST by reed13k
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To: Daaave

We’re talking more than a course on Chinese history.


34 posted on 02/13/2018 9:53:41 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: JimRed

Thee is always a difference between a government and its people.


35 posted on 02/13/2018 9:55:22 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
The latest take on this contentious topic, a 183-page report on Confucius Institutes from the National Association of Scholars, by the author’s account finds “few smoking guns, and no evidence of outright policies banning certain topics from discussion” – but reasons for concern nonetheless.

The report, which examines hiring policies, course offerings and textbooks, funding structures, academic freedom protections, and what the author describes as “formal and informal speech codes” at 12 Confucius Institutes in New Jersey and New York...

Follow the money. NAS doesn't want competition.

36 posted on 02/13/2018 10:05:36 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: ilovesarah2012
"We’re talking more than a course on Chinese history."

Yes, I see that.

"I had never heard of this before today"

Well, I have. Many years before you have, obviously.

37 posted on 02/13/2018 10:08:43 AM PST by Daaave ("the flesh eating jinn of Komari")
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To: ilovesarah2012
"We’re talking more than a course on Chinese history."

Yes, I see that.

"I had never heard of this before today"

Well, I have. Many years before you have, obviously.

38 posted on 02/13/2018 10:08:43 AM PST by Daaave ("the flesh eating jinn of Komari")
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To: ilovesarah2012

Confucius Institutes have been around for more than 10 years. They focus on Chinese language and culture. I’ve worked with CIs. I’ve researched them. The critics of CI can scarcely point to any examples of where the CIs exercised any sort of politicization.

Personally, I think it’s critical for more Americans to study Chinese language and learn about their culture. This is the only avenue I see toward changing U.S.-Chinese relations.


39 posted on 02/13/2018 10:54:16 AM PST by Chengdu54
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ve worked with Confucius Institutes and researched them. There’s no political indoctrination going on. It’s hard enough to teach Mandarin, let alone use it to indoctrinate.

If we’re ever going to have peaceful relations with China, they are most likely to come as more Americans study Mandarin and begin to understand Chinese culture. IMO.


40 posted on 02/13/2018 10:57:26 AM PST by Chengdu54
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