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What's up with the NSA shooting?
MAGAPILL ^ | 2/14/2018 | MAGAPILL

Posted on 02/15/2018 9:14:24 AM PST by Jack Black

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To: Jim 0216
UPDATE, from Baltimore Sun:

NSA gate incident: 2 Fort Meade suspects released, third turned over to Howard County Sheriff's Office

Two of the men who were arrested Wednesday at Fort Meade — where the driver of an SUV attempted to enter the National Security Agency compound — have been released, and the third has been handed over to the Howard County Sheriff’s Office, the FBI said Thursday.

The driver of the SUV, an NSA police officer and a civilian bystander were injured in the incident, which happened shortly before 7 a.m. at Gate 1 on Canine Road, off Maryland Route 32.

The investigation is ongoing, but “we do not see a nexus to terrorism,” FBI Baltimore field office spokesman Dave Fitz said in a statement.

Javonte Alhajie Brown, 24, of Washington, was turned over to the Howard County Sheriff’s Office Wednesday evening on an active warrant for unpaid child support, spokesman Deputy Christopher Adams said.

No phone number was listed for Brown’s address. He was expected to be released Thursday afternoon, Adams said.

The FBI did not release the names or ages of the other men, and the agency did not provide any updates on the injured people’s conditions. Fitz said he did not expect to provide a second update Thursday.

Apparently no one was too seriously injured in all this.
21 posted on 02/15/2018 9:45:12 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: rxsid

I think you posted this on the WRONG thread.

This thread is on the NSA Shooting in Maryland, not the school shooting in Florida.


22 posted on 02/15/2018 9:48:00 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Keep fighting the Left and their Fake News!)
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To: Jack Black
"Javonte Alhajie Brown"

Sounds like a black guy, possibly a Muslim convert, judging by the middle name.
23 posted on 02/15/2018 9:53:36 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Alas Babylon!
Thanks.

Meanwhile, I googled up this guy's sort of unique name and go this:

Available Public Records

Charge 1: False Identify Self To Law Enf Charging County: Arlington General District Court, VA Charge Date: 05/19/2016

Seems like he's a standard-issue hood rat type, he was detained for not paying child support.

24 posted on 02/15/2018 9:55:34 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

As I said on the other thread, they could have been high, drunk, engaging in illegal activity or had a criminal history (in this case, one of them apparently had a warrant)

People do panic, especially when you have a warrant, and you take a wrong road and end up at a big monolithic gate with police cars and people in body armor, dogs on leashes, holding automatic weapons, and they are all looking at you.

If you have a warrant out on you, you might well panic especially if you are the driver, go up over a curb to turn around, whatever...

I am onboard with people feeling like we are in a police state, we are. But that said, these people who were manning that checkpoint may well have been on edge for whatever reason, and we may know nothing about it. There may have been threats, and mentally ill leftists are a significant threat at all times.

People have indeed been killed for stupidity (just a fact of life) and acting erratically in that environment is not something even the most mentally challenged person wants to do. Even if you do have a warrant out on you.


25 posted on 02/15/2018 9:59:45 AM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette)
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To: Steve_Seattle
Sounds like a black guy, possibly a Muslim convert, judging by the middle name.

Black transgender, actually
26 posted on 02/15/2018 9:59:56 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: rjsimmon
If you are talking about this that was from 3 years ago. I think no one died from yesterday's NSA incursion.
27 posted on 02/15/2018 10:09:15 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

Not the one from last year, but I had heard (mistakenly) that the driver had been killed.


28 posted on 02/15/2018 10:11:53 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: rjsimmon
Not the one from last year,

Check that... 3 years ago. My how time flies...

29 posted on 02/15/2018 10:13:30 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Jack Black
People make mistakes and get scared. There is no possible justification for shooting someone who it trying to turn around and leaeve a place they are not supposed to be, no matter how clumsily they are doing so

how long do you wait before you make the decision that that's what they are doing ? Did they blow through what looks like a checkpoint ? What is at Fort Meade that needs to be protected at all costs. ? Is the SUV loaded with C4 ?
In looking at the overhead photo, the SUV was prevented from going anywhere by the barrier.(unless they wanted to blow thru the fence) How long before the SUV (and the people in it) was\were engaged after it was stopped ? At what point were shots fired ?

at this point, way too many questions
30 posted on 02/15/2018 10:13:32 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Jack Black

Been to Fort Meade on numerous occasions as I was running a SCIF that did lots of NSA oriented computer/networking training - back then the base was “ope” as in entrances were likely as not to be unguarded but the “Puzzle Palace” had more security - much more o fit underground than above and a fascinating tour....lots of the “grunt” workers were in small cubicles with their equipment and had windows so supervisors (and others) could see them as they walked down the hallways with all the cubicles - hardly a glamorous job for many....


31 posted on 02/15/2018 10:13:33 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: Jack Black

Its good to know that at some future date all my rantings, even those on FR, are available to inquiring minds of that distant time. We are immortal!


32 posted on 02/15/2018 10:15:50 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Jack Black

I admit I am late to the Brenden Dilly intel periscopes but on the few I have seen, I think he is making it up. It is particularly vague, like a psychic reading. I think he gleans some of his “intel” from Q.

Something else that leads me to believe he is a fraud - he reads his “intel” as if it was provided to him in poorly written handwriting, even though he is looking at the computer.


33 posted on 02/15/2018 10:21:21 AM PST by KMG365
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To: rjsimmon

It was actually 2+ years ago (2015), around the same time as Freddie Grey. Also I wasn’t sure if anyone had died from yesterday, but if they had I hadn’t heard that fact. So I was trying to see if I missed something. Also, unless you get into the story (the other story that is) you wouldn’t know it was from a couple of years + that the story was written.


34 posted on 02/15/2018 10:23:39 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Jack Black

You want answers? You can’t handle the truth. The FIB has neither the time nor the inclination to explain themselves to a populace who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very protection that The FIB provides and then questions the manner that n which The FIB provides it.


35 posted on 02/15/2018 10:28:59 AM PST by gathersnomoss
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.....big monolithic gate with police cars and people in body armor, dogs on leashes, holding automatic weapons, and they are all looking at you.

There is none of that at the Fort Meade gates. They look more like toll booths. People usually only see one guy in uniform standing outside each booth, checking ID. I haven't been there in six years, but in 2012 they only carried side arms while checking ID.

If you make a wrong turn into the gate, just drive up to the guard and tell him you made a wrong turn. He will tell you how to get out again. Follow instructions and there are no problems. Happens all the time. I did it myself, out of habit, after I had to turn in my ID card.

36 posted on 02/15/2018 10:33:08 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: Jack Black
“we do not see a nexus to terrorism,” FBI Baltimore field office spokesman Dave Fitz said in a statement

They never do. Standard out-of-the-can government answer that will change someday hopefully.

The presumption for unprovoked and unexplained attacks and murder is Islamic jihadism. The presumption can be rebutted of course with appropriate and convincing evidence, but the presumption should be the starting point.

37 posted on 02/15/2018 10:35:09 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: rjsimmon
They still have not explained how a wrong turn turned deadly.

Hyped up cops blasing away at anything they can.

Looks like a tourist got lost, and tried to get out.

38 posted on 02/15/2018 10:43:48 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: Jack Black

Thanks.
Looks like you are right...lost and screwed up the turn around...
The Feds are out of it...with no explanation re: why shots fired ?
I hope a reporter is around to get the story, when they release Mr. Brown


39 posted on 02/15/2018 10:59:58 AM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: Jack Black

With a name like “Javonte Alhajie Brown”, self-misidentification seems justifiable.


40 posted on 02/15/2018 12:09:59 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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