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Supreme Court upholds new Pa. congressional district map, rejecting Republican challenge
Philadelphia Daily Inquirer ^ | 19 March 2018 | by Jonathan Lai & Liz Navratil

Posted on 03/19/2018 1:07:07 PM PDT by napscoordinator

The new congressional map imposed by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court will be used in the 2018 elections, after courts rejected two challenges Monday.

First, a panel of federal judges Monday dismissed a lawsuit challenging the new map imposed by the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, saying the Republican lawmakers who brought the challenge did not have standing — “We hold that the federal Elections Clause violations that the Plaintiffs allege are not the Plaintiffs’ to assert” — and that the case is not appropriate for the court to take up at this time.

“In short, the Plaintiffs invite us to opine on the appropriate balance of power between the Commonwealth’s legislature and judiciary in redistricting matters, and then to pass judgment on the propriety of the Pennsylvania Supreme Court’s actions under the United States Constitution,” they wrote. “These are things that, on the present record, we cannot do.”

Within hours, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected a separate request from top Republican state lawmakers that the court step in and block the map.

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: elections; gerrymandering; judicialtyranny; pagerrymandering; paping; pennsylvania; redistricting; scotus; supremecourt
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To: napscoordinator; MountainWalker

Interesting. I know nothing about Saccone, but to think that in this day and age, the Democrats would allow someone to run as Lamb did, is unthinkable. I do remember skimming an article that stated he really is your typical, modern liberal, he just hid all of that during the campaign. Still boggles my mind that he could win.


41 posted on 03/19/2018 2:25:55 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: fortheDeclaration

PA-18 was R+11.
Lamb’s new district will be R+3. I think he will gladly take that.


42 posted on 03/19/2018 2:30:08 PM PDT by mooncoin
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To: Nextrush; Daveinyork; Red in Blue PA; carriage_hill

Bad news for York County, now the most Gerrymandered county in the Commonwealth.

Dallastown Borough abuts Yoe Borough and both are surrounded by York Township.

Dallastown will be in the 11th District, Yoe in the 10th; and to make it “work” with contiguous areas some of York Township will be in each district, with the divisions going down to the precinct level of its five wards.


43 posted on 03/19/2018 2:38:40 PM PDT by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: Jane Long

New PA-17 picks up parts of the old PA-14 which was a heavy Dem district. I believe this district is currently represented by Keith Rothfus.

He is going to have the same problems Saccone had if he doesn’t run an inspiring campaign. Rothfus must run as a Conservative (obviously) and turn out the vote. He has to get Lamb on the record as to what he does and doesn’t support about Trump’s policy. He has to put Lamb on the record as to what he does not like about Nancy Pelosi to not want to vote for her. The above two are critical to depress the blue vote (they need to target Lamb’s pro-second amendment stances in the deep blue areas of new PA-17).

I’m sure Lamb will vote lockstep with Republicans until after this fall ... he wants that different “record”. I’m sure he’ll be voting liberal thereafter unless the Dems have some kind of comfortable margin in the House after the midterms.

Rothfus cannot let up on the attacks. As soon as Lamb wins the Dem primary, the attacks need to begin (strategically of course ... it’s stupid to shoot your wad early, but a trickle up to a “wave” this fall would be prudent).

Rothfus cannot assume that voters will simply show up. Rothfus will have to get out there and campaign like he’s never had to campaign before (and he’s had some tough races so far) since he is going to have the exact same problems Saccone had campaigning against Lamb.

This is going to be a very competitive race.


44 posted on 03/19/2018 2:39:50 PM PDT by edh
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To: napscoordinator
Surprising especially considering all Supremes were in agreement.

I don't think it necessarily means all the justice of the Supreme Court opposed it. I think it means that fewer than four justices - the minimum needed - agreed to take the case up.

45 posted on 03/19/2018 2:47:30 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: qaz123
Question to folks from Pennsylvania. Does this mean that the 18th District, stays as is? And Lamb will have to run again in November?

Lamb would have to run again in November regardless. But he runs under the new map.

46 posted on 03/19/2018 2:49:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: napscoordinator

Bad news for me. They just buried my vote in a sea of blue voters. Total crap.


47 posted on 03/19/2018 2:51:09 PM PDT by Ciexyz (I have one issue and it's my economic well-being.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
So terrorists in black robes get to draw the boundaries?

When the legislature and the governor could not.

48 posted on 03/19/2018 2:51:25 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: edh
Yes. Saccone should be in a “safe R” seat now that a lot of the “blue” in PA-18 has been trimmed out (most of PA-18 is now PA-14).

Be i the 18th district or the 14th district, hopefully they can fine a better candidate to run than Saccone. The guy ran a terrible campaign.

49 posted on 03/19/2018 2:55:01 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PSUGOP
I hate my state.

Pennsylvania like most states could be easily broken up. Philadelphia and the Mainline can have their own little sh*thole utopia. Maybe Ohio can annex Pittsburg. I have no answer for Harrisburg. The rest of the state is ok if the illegals are kept out but that is a huge problem. This Wolf is a POS.

I hate government, judges, politicians, liberals and media. I have never been this cynical about so much. It does suck the air out of life.

50 posted on 03/19/2018 2:55:22 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: PSUGOP

SCAM. All voting districts should be a rectangle for equality. Overlap ignored.


51 posted on 03/19/2018 3:03:39 PM PDT by TheNext
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To: napscoordinator

The primaries are just a few days away and the map is only going to be used for the 2018 and 2020 elections since they will need to be redistricted in time for 2022 anyway. IOW, it’s not as huge as some would portray it.


52 posted on 03/19/2018 3:07:00 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Donald Trump: Doing the work American politicians just won't do.)
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To: napscoordinator

The Supreme Judges are electing your representatives with weird lines selecting their own favorites.

All it takes is a brave Republican legislature to redraw based on a rectangle, like the U.S. States mostly, and run the election. Ignore the crooked judges. Just state judges were choosing their favorites.


53 posted on 03/19/2018 3:10:43 PM PDT by TheNext
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To: jyo19

As a voter in PA-18, I’m being disenfranchised.


54 posted on 03/19/2018 3:11:54 PM PDT by Ciexyz (I have one issue and it's my economic well-being.)
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To: OrangeHoof

It’s not as bad as it could have been.


55 posted on 03/19/2018 3:19:34 PM PDT by cowboyusa (Lang)
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To: qaz123

Both Democrats and Republicans win pretending to be Republicans. Democrats just bluff a little more.


56 posted on 03/19/2018 3:20:22 PM PDT by MountainWalker
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To: qaz123

uestion to folks from Pennsylvania. Does this mean that the 18th District, stays as is? And Lamb will have to run again in November?>>> Lamb was always scheduled to rerun in november. it’s an open seat but expires the same as all the others.


57 posted on 03/19/2018 3:20:41 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: napscoordinator

the dem version back in the 80’s was far worse. CD-1 which was my district ran from montgomery county in the north, a skinny sliver down broad street. over to west philly down baltimore avenue out chester pike delaware county, down to trainer at the delaware state line.


58 posted on 03/19/2018 3:24:43 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: mooncoin
He has to win it first!

And he will have a voting record.

59 posted on 03/19/2018 3:35:15 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DoodleDawg

He might have to primary against a Democrat first and hopefully, face a better Republican.


60 posted on 03/19/2018 3:36:16 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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