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Dershowitz: Special Counsel Investigation Should End (its criminalization of political differences)
cbslocal.com ^ | 3/29/18 | Jack Fink George Petroulis

Posted on 03/30/2018 11:21:04 AM PDT by Liz

"That's What They Did In The Soviet Union, 'Show Me The Man, And I'll Find You The Crime'" “That’s the way it’s done in other western democracies,” he continued. “They don’t appoint a special counsel and tell them to ‘Get that guy…’ that’s what they did in the Soviet Union. Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the KGB said to Stalin, ‘Show me the man, and I’ll find you the crime!'” That’s what special counsel does.”

Dershowitz was quick to point out that he was not making a direct correlation between the United States and the former Soviet Union. “I’m not comparing obviously the Soviet Union and the United States. We have structural protections in our Bill Of Rights but it’s going down the wrong direction.”

“The issue of criminalization [of political differences] has not been subject to rational discourse,” said Dershowitz. “Democrats hate when they politicize and criminalize political differences against Democrats… when they did it with Bill Clinton. Republicans hate when they do it against their people… President Trump. But each one supports it when they’re against their enemies and partisanship prevails over principle. It’s very hard to have a reasonable discussion.”

Dershowitz said that citizens should fear the direction of this investigation for their own sake. He warned that today criminalization of political differences appears – now – to only affect presidents and political leaders. “Tomorrow it can affect you and me. If you give the prosecutor the ability to stretch the criminal law to fit a target, it’s very dangerous.”

Dershowitz said that special counsels are not the right way to approach criminal justice. “When you appoint a special counsel you give them targets and you say, ‘You better get that guy or the people around him…and we’re going to give you tens of millions of dollars. And if you come up empty handed you’re a failure.'”

Dershowitz said that if an ordinary prosecutor goes months without finding a crime then “that’s great, no… there have been no crimes committed.” He says not so with a special counsel. “Special Counsel always has the goal of ‘getting the people.’ They’re going to find crimes, or they’re going to manufacture crimes or they’re going to stretch the criminal law to fit the ‘crimes’ because they’re not going to come away empty handed.” Dershowitz was asked what he thinks should happen now. Should Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein curtail the investigation? “I think Rod Rosenstein needs to say to the special counsel, ‘Do not investigate the private finances of the president before he became president; do not investigate his relatives; do not investigate his sex life.’ Don’t do – to President Trump – what Ken Starr did to President Clinton,” said Dershowitz . “It started with Whitewater and ended up with a blue dress. That’s not the appropriate way a special counsel should operate.”

Rosenstein appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel after Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States.

Dershowitz had some strong words for Rosenstein. “I think Rod Rosenstein is concerned more about his reputation than anything else. I don’t understand why he’s not recused,” said Dershowitz. “He is the key witness in the firing of Comey.”

Dershowitz said if he were President Trump’s lawyer, Rosenstein would be the first witness he would call asking him, “Rod Rosenstein, you wrote the memo… you justified the firing… explain how you justified the firing. Did the President tell you to do it? Did you tell the President to do the firing?”

Dershowitz said the American public is quickly losing faith in the justice system and he called that a terrible, terrible tragedy. “We need neutral objective people administering justice. You can’t have an FBI agent like Strzok who is writing messages saying ‘oh we have to stop Trump from becoming President.'”

Dershowitz was referring to text messages between FBI employees Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, a senior FBI lawyer who was also working on the Mueller team.

During the campaign, Strzok led the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private server while Clinton was Secretary of State. The texts sent between Page and Strzok were dated between August 2015 and December 2016, the duration of the campaign. They raise concerns about Strzok’s impartiality and were likely to prompt more questions about the investigation into Clinton’s server. Strzok was dismissed from Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team in August, 2017.

Dershowitz said that if an ordinary prosecutor goes months without finding a crime then “that’s great, no… there have been no crimes committed.” He says not so with a special counsel. “Special Counsel always has the goal of ‘getting the people.’ They’re going to find crimes, or they’re going to manufacture crimes or they’re going to stretch the criminal law to fit the ‘crimes’ because they’re not going to come away empty handed.”

Dershowitz was asked what he thinks should happen now. Should Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein curtail the investigation? “I think Rod Rosenstein needs to say to the special counsel, ‘Do not investigate the private finances of the president before he became president; do not investigate his relatives; do not investigate his sex life.’ Don’t do – to President Trump – what Ken Starr did to President Clinton,” said Dershowitz . “It started with Whitewater and ended up with a blue dress. That’s not the appropriate way a special counsel should operate.” Rosenstein appointed Robert Mueller as special counsel after Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from any existing or future investigations of any matters related in any way to the campaigns for President of the United States.


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1 posted on 03/30/2018 11:21:04 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz

I have come to believe that Mueller’s primary motivation in this farce is to keep himself out of jail as along as possible.


2 posted on 03/30/2018 11:23:13 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 0)
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To: Liz

That Trump continues to draw breath is a crime to the left.


3 posted on 03/30/2018 11:25:45 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Liz

This is why the Deep State Q psyops campaign is so important: to keep a very active and committed faction of Trump’s base trusting Sessions and the plan until it’s too late—i.e.: until the coup succeeds.


4 posted on 03/30/2018 11:25:56 AM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Why isn’t Dersh on Trumps legal team?


5 posted on 03/30/2018 11:33:26 AM PDT by shelterguy (Bigdeal)
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To: Fantasywriter

Boy, nothing gets past you. /s


6 posted on 03/30/2018 11:36:23 AM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Liz

I completely agree with The Dersh. Chances that this comcept will be enacted..zero. The uniparty use this to attack people they don’t like, and use it as a show when it’s their own.


7 posted on 03/30/2018 11:42:34 AM PDT by catbertz
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To: Liz

Bump


8 posted on 03/30/2018 11:59:23 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: shelterguy

I wish I knew. Wouldn’t Dershowitz make a great addition to Trump’s legal team? It’s almost as if he’s auditioning for it.


9 posted on 03/30/2018 12:05:28 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: MileHi

The facts re Q fit a Deep State psyops far better than they fit any alternative.


10 posted on 03/30/2018 12:06:55 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Incorrigible

As corrupt as Mueller and his Rat hit squad is his disapproval number is only 43%. Ryan and Mitch have his back he’s going nowhere.


11 posted on 03/30/2018 12:07:04 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: gibsonguy

Even Mike Lee promised to unleash hell on Trump if he tries to fire Mueller. Not that I consider Mike Lee to be anything special, but some do.

The fact is that not a single senator backs Trump. Not one. That means Sessions, Rosenstein and Mueller—aka the swamp—are safe for now.


12 posted on 03/30/2018 12:15:54 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: gibsonguy

As corrupt as Mueller and his Rat hit squad is his disapproval number is only 43%. Ryan and Mitch have his back he’s going nowhere.


Yep. The GOP have managed to trash most of Trump’s first term. He needs to fire Mueller the day after the midterms and run against all of the DC sewer in 2020.


13 posted on 03/30/2018 12:16:27 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Fantasywriter

Even Mike Lee promised to unleash hell on Trump if he tries to fire Mueller. Not that I consider Mike Lee to be anything special, but some do.


Yeah, Gowdy too. I expect POTUS is deferring to the GOP because of the midterms. Gloves come off after the midterms. Ryan knows it, too. That’s why he is signalling he will retire.


14 posted on 03/30/2018 12:18:38 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Liz

I feel like I read the same copy twice.


15 posted on 03/30/2018 12:25:17 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (President Trump divides Americans . . . from anti-Americans.)
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To: lodi90

Exactly. Trump has maybe two allies: Nunes and Meadows. If there are more, they’re keeping a low profile.

Trump has to wait for Mueller’s interminable witch hunt to end—if it ever does. Mueller is literally investigating Trump for ***thinking*** (allegedly) about firing Mueller. Thinking about it = obstruction. Not kidding, though I wish I were.

Anyway, if Trump ever gets the Mueller monkey off his back, heads will roll. Count on it.


16 posted on 03/30/2018 12:27:17 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter; shelterguy

Dershowitz has said he has zero interest in working for Trump’s legal team. AD is “retired” (he’s almost 80) and can comment as he pleases without needing to answer to anyone or follow any significant schedules.


17 posted on 03/30/2018 1:37:38 PM PDT by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: Enchante

Oh well.


18 posted on 03/30/2018 1:41:01 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Liz

I would like for the President to give Mueller 60 days to complete and report on his investigation. After 60 days the US government will cease funding the Special Counsel and any expenses thereafter will not be paid. In this manner the President should not receive the bad press he would if Mueller is outright fired.


19 posted on 03/30/2018 1:50:36 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said theoal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Liz

No end to Mueller and his power. He will raise hall for many years..


20 posted on 03/30/2018 2:26:55 PM PDT by Logical me
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