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SCOTUS Rules on Police Shooting...and Sotomayor's Scathing Dissent
Townhall.com ^ | April 3, 2018 | Cortney O'Brien

Posted on 04/03/2018 5:47:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of a police officer who shot a woman outside of her home in Tucson, Arizona in May 2010. The officer, Andrew Kisela, shot Amy Hughes after she was seen acting "erratically," hacking at a tree with a knife and arguing with her roommate.

Kisela and another police officer, Alex Garcia, heard about the report on their patrol car radio and responded. A third police officer, Lindsay Kunz, arrived on the scene on her bicycle. 

All three officers drew their guns. At least twice they told Hughes to drop the knife. Viewing the record in the light most favorable to Hughes, Chadwick said “take it easy” to both Hughes and the officers. Hughes appeared calm, but she did not acknowledge the officers’ presence or drop the knife. The top bar of the chain-link fence blocked Kisela’s line of fire, so he dropped to the ground and shot Hughes four times through the fence. Then the officers jumped the fence, handcuffed Hughes, and called paramedics, who transported her to a hospital. There she was treated for non-life-threatening injuries. Less than a minute had transpired from the moment the officers saw Chadwick to the moment Kisela fired shots.

Hughes, they later learned, had a history of mental illness. She and Chadwick were roommates and they apparently had a disagreement over $20.

Kisela, Garcia and Kunz defended Kisela's decision to shoot, noting they believed at the time that Hughes was a threat to Chadwick. Still, Hughes sued Kisela, alleging that he had used excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

In their ruling Monday, the Supreme Court cited several other court cases as precedent in their acquittal of the police officer. They cited Kisela’s qualified immunity, which protects public officials from damages for civil liability as long as they did not violate an individual's "clearly established" statutory or constitutional rights, Cornell explains.

Justice Sonia Sotomayor dissented, offering a different perspective of what transpired, concluding Officer Kisela acted hastily. 

"Kisela did not wait for Hughes to register, much less respond to, the officers’ rushed commands," Sotomayor insisted. "Instead, Kisela immediately and unilaterally escalated the situation."

Furthermore, he gave no advance warning that he would shoot, and "attempted no less dangerous methods to deescalate the situation."

She also disagreed with her colleagues in terms of qualified immunity. An officer is not entitled to qualified immunity, she said, if “(1) they violated a federal statutory or constitutional right, and (2) the unlawfulness of their conduct was ‘clearly established at the time.’” 

Hughes, Sotomayor noted, had not committed a crime. Furthermore, when the police officers arrived on the scene, reports indicate that Hughes was standing “composed and content” during her encounter with Chadwick. With the above context, the justice came to the following conclusion.

The majority today exacerbates that troubling asymmetry. Its decision is not just wrong on the law; it also sends an alarming signal to law enforcement officers and the public. It tells officers that they can shoot first and think later, and it tells the public that palpably unreasonable conduct will go unpunished. Because there is nothing right or just under the law about this, I respectfully dissent.

You can read the whole court ruling – and Sotomayor’s dissent – here


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alexgarcia; amyhughes; andrewkisela; arizona; banglist; fourthamendment; lawsuit; leo; lindsaykunz; lookwhohatescops; nra; police; ruling; secondamendment; soniasotomayor; sonjasotomayor; supremecourt; tucson
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To: Moonman62

I have seldom if ever agreed with Sotomayer.

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You shouldn’t agree with her now. She’s still the dumbest member of the court.””

Clearly they put this la Raza klan member on the court for one reason only, she is a hispaniel. Here low IQ wasn’t even a consideration. It was a racist affirmative action appointment.


81 posted on 04/03/2018 8:35:05 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: NRx

Of course you are not seeing it, because you weren’t there, were you? What you have is hearsay.


82 posted on 04/03/2018 8:37:15 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: JayGalt; shelterguy

None of us were at the scene. Hearsay by the press is adequate for the masses that never question anything the media says. The cops were on site, this goofy bitch had a butcher knife and someone must have called the cops for a reason. I’m inclined to support and listen to those that were actually there.


83 posted on 04/03/2018 8:42:23 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Wuli

This is true. But it is also telling that the other far left members of the jury, Kagan, Beyer and Ginsberg, sided with the majority for reasons likely to be laden with the actual facts of the case.


84 posted on 04/03/2018 8:43:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: JayGalt
The police officer is responsible for public saftey and acts to protect the public. He/she is going to need to act differently.

Yes, exactly. He is going to need to act differently. Whereas most people would act solely in their self defense, when they are afraid for their lives, the cop must act as the authority. He must be held to a higher standard instead of letting him blast away out of fear or recklessness. There really is no reason why a cop should be allowed to shoot in a circumstance where a private citizen could not.
85 posted on 04/03/2018 8:47:12 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Neoliberalnot; Fresh Wind

“She’s hacking on a tree with a dagger? Is that a lethal weapon? “

Sometimes I hack at a tree with a chainsaw, a much more lethal weapon. It is not illegal to do so and as long as I am on my own property and not threatening anyone the police have no right to shoot at me.


86 posted on 04/03/2018 8:54:16 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Kaslin

She has the face of a low functioning moron.


87 posted on 04/03/2018 8:55:11 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Yeah, you were there on site.


88 posted on 04/03/2018 9:01:18 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: Vigilanteman; Wuli

wuli writes as if he were there. Media hearsay is for the mentally challenged, including the fat Mexican in a blackrobe.


89 posted on 04/03/2018 9:03:09 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (MSM is our greatest threat. Disney, Comcast, Google Hollywood, NYTimes, WaPo, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC ...)
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To: fr_freak
There really is no reason why a cop should be allowed to shoot in a circumstance where a private citizen could not.

You refute your own words. The private citizen does not have to act, the cop must step in. If the citizens around him get hurt he has failed. Hind sight is 20 20.

90 posted on 04/03/2018 9:03:47 AM PDT by JayGalt (Let Trump Be Trump)
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To: Kaslin; All

Broken clock, but credit where due.

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In their ruling Monday, the Supreme Court cited several other court cases as precedent in their acquittal of the police officer. They cited Kisela’s qualified immunity, which protects public officials from damages for civil liability...
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IMO, the affront is the ever increasing ‘redline’ between govt being liable vs. ‘let off the hook’.

No-knock, SWAT raids, police unloading the full mag...But if John Q. Public fires more than 1 shot (fear for life defense).

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...did not violate an individual’s “clearly established” statutory or constitutional rights...
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“...that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness...”

Believe THOSE are *clearly established*. I fear we’ve turned the tables 180.


91 posted on 04/03/2018 9:04:09 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: shelterguy

I wonder if the wise Latina would feel the same about immunity for government officials in sactuary cities being held accountable.


92 posted on 04/03/2018 9:11:02 AM PDT by BOBWADE (RINOs suck)
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To: Neoliberalnot

“Yeah, you were there on site.”

A pointless comment since presumably neither were you. All we can go by is the description of events that is probably somewhat inaccurate.


93 posted on 04/03/2018 9:20:14 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Kaslin

STOP or I'll shoot!

has a long, established history.

94 posted on 04/03/2018 9:27:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Twotone
We are giving police free rein to shoot first. That should be the last possible course of action.

We have ALWAYS given free rein to perps to STOP!first. That should be their FIRST possible course of action.

95 posted on 04/03/2018 9:29:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: wbarmy
I think we would.

I KNOW we would!!

96 posted on 04/03/2018 9:30:46 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: arthurus
The shootee was not in a position to hurt anyone right then with that knife.

Oh?

You SAW that in the video??

97 posted on 04/03/2018 9:31:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Ancient Man
Did no one think of using Mace or a taser?

How far does Mace® shoot accurately?

Was there a wind?

Tasers were on OTHER side of fence; too.

98 posted on 04/03/2018 9:33:27 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Correct.


99 posted on 04/03/2018 9:34:14 AM PDT by Kaslin (Politicians are not born; they are excreted -Civilibus nati sunt; sunt excernitur. (Cicero)
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To: ConservativeMind
Perhaps the shooting cop was ALSO a member of TreeHuggers; Inc.
100 posted on 04/03/2018 9:35:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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