Shoot First and Think Later

Townhall.com ^ | April 4, 2018 | Jacob Sullum

[Elsie]

In Kisela v. Hughes, the justices overturned – without briefing or oral argument –

the ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit in favor of Amy Hughes,

whom police corporal Andrew Kisela shot and wounded in 2010.

[treetopsandroofs]

Did a quick look-see on tasers and those barrels look pretty large.

http://www.defenseproducts101.com/taser-x26c/taser-x26c-specifications.html

[zeugma]

Having read through the opinion and dissent yesterday, I have to say that in this case, the liberal whackjobs were in the right, and the rest of the court was bending over backwards to make sure the police state doesn’t have any troublesome impediments like common sense or decency get in its way. It’s an unusual occurrence.

[zeugma]

Making the police our rulers?

IT's been this way for a while now. "Making" is the wrong tense.

[zeugma]

3. Every citizen should be (and note my choice of words here) IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES whenever the police aim a weapon at them or their loved ones.

And should act appropriately.

[YogicCowboy]

Sovereign immunity.

I figured out in the 1980s that the police are not our friends (even if they want to be).

[Elsie]

Well; ya hardly ever hear, “STOP!! or I’ll shoot!” in our TV programs these days.

[Elsie]

Remember: it’s a jungle out here.

[Elsie]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monk_(TV_series)#Theme_music

[familyop]

Tell everyone not to call police for any kind of welfare check. Obviously, the more equal upscale folks are going insane with time. Try to stay out of their way and watch the crazy show from afar.

[Mom MD]

I don’t think I would want to use a high voltage electric device through a metal fence Just saying....

[Fred911]

Hmmmm....there are cops at my house. I have an idea, I’ll walk out to speak with them with this knife in my hand. What could possibly go wrong?

[Labyrinthos]

But having a bronze badge is a "get out of jail free card" for those who wear it...

The New York State Troopers literally hand out "get out of jail free cards" to their family and friends, which they can use to get out of speeding tickets and other traffic violations and petty crimes and misdemeanors, including DUI (as long as there is no accident or injury). Let's say, for example, that a Trooper pulls you over for driving 90 mph on the NYS Truway. When you hand the Trooper your drivers licence and registration, you also hand him the "get out of jail free card." He will then ask who gave you the card, and may even call the Trooper to verify that the card came from him. And once verified, you are free to go, often without even a warning.

The NYS Troopers will deny the existence of the "get out of jail free card," just like they will deny the existence of quotas for speeding violations. But NYS Troopers are trained to lie. How do I know? Because I had a "get out of jail free card" back in the 1990's and I know people today who have and have used the card to "get out of jail free." And the same NYS Trooper who gave me the card readily admitted that they do, indeed, have quotas for speeding tickets.

[familyop]

"the two other officers with him nevertheless drew their guns and ordered Hughes to drop the knife...Kisela...opened fire immediately and without warning, hitting Hughes with all four bullets."

According to the author's words, Hughes was not attacking anyone, which was obvious to everyone present except for one policeman. So she was assaulted with deadly force and very seriously injured. Were the author's words true?

Whether or not someone is "ordered" "to drop the knife" is irrelevant to the legal issue of deadly assault or self-defense. Whether or not someone is trying to attack someone else is relevant.

Whether or not someone is "ordered" "to drop the knife" is relevant to survival, if such an order is issued by a likely attacker who might attack with deadly force for the thrill of it. The problem with being satisfied with that outcome as a matter of policy is that of consequences that criminals tend to ignore (re. criminology).

But were the author's words true to the situation? I don't know.