Posted on 04/04/2018 8:29:28 AM PDT by Kaslin
Cops get away with just about anything. If they shoot you on a whim you’re totally screwed even if you survive the shooting. So what’s new?
Thus, it becomes that the officers should and must be held to a higher standard than regular citizens.
Had this been a "normal" citizen who shot this lady up, there would be enormous jail time handed down.
But having a bronze badge is a "get out of jail free card" for those who wear it, apparently. At least according to the Ninth Circus and most of the Supreme Court.
I kind of worry about this kind of thing, I have serious hearing loss and even with hearing aids I can’t make out what people are saying sometimes. Now, I have some common sense though, in this exact situation I’d think ‘oh, they’re upset about the knife’ and I’d drop it.
What worries me is having a couple of cops draw on me and they’re yelling at me buy it sounds like Charlie Brown’s teacher and I have nothing in my hands and I have no idea what they want me to do.
Amy Hughes apparently doesn’t own a dog.
“After Hughes sued Kisela under a federal law that allows people to recover damages for violations of their constitutional rights,”
Let me note that said federal law does NOT apply in the 4th judicial circuit (Virginia, North Carolina, W. Virginia, etc.) to any except descendants of former slaves.
That is the judge-made rule in that circuit.
Hence, if you are hispanic, pacific islander, native american, white, asian, etc., you do NOT have the right to sue state officials for violating your civil rights.
That’s despite the legislative intent, as shown by the congressional debate over that law, that it was intended to apply to everyone.
(That’s the loophole which allowed a federal judge to throw out most of the suits by the Duke lacrosse players against Nifong et al — they were the wrong ethnicity and were not covered by the “federal” law).
Kisela could have used his Taser instead of his gun.
Any videos of a taser working through a chain link fence?
The article is not just a touch one sided. Complying with commands by an armed person or officer results in a choice of act with deadly force or comply. It does not lend itself well to let’s call in a mediator or what do you mean “Do it now!”
Ouch!
In what world are LEOs licensed to kill just because a command is not obeyed?
Maybe he if he held the taser through the fence link hole, not directly at the fence link?
Qualified immunity makes police officers our rulers.
It must be abolished.
Completely.
Every officer must be subject to the very same laws as the citizenry, including civil law/tort.
” Do it now!
Making the police our rulers?
There MUST be a legitimate threat before deadly force is used. Not just a plausible possibility.
That is the standard which every citizen is held to. And that is the standard which every officer should be held to as well.
The unstated message here is that:
1. Every encounter with the police is a potentially lethal event.
2. The police are personally unaccountable for their criminal and negligent actions.
3. Every citizen should be (and note my choice of words here) IN FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES whenever the police aim a weapon at them or their loved ones.
In any world where you have a force representing the “enforcement power of the state” called to an incident it is the state that wins that moment. In this nation we have courts to determine if the state was right or wrong in it’s assessment of the situation. If the matter is exacerbated because you are armed and fail to cooperate in moving the matter to the courts, your misfortune is collateral not central to the issue. That was pretty clear in the ruling in this case.
Easy one. In the LEOs' world of course
The problems is that they are NOT held to the same standards as an ordinary citizen, but are basically held to no standard at all.
Oh?
I thought to even get to the SC a trial had to go down SOMEWHERE!
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