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She Got Pregnant at 18 and Did Something That Today, Few Teens Do
The Daily Signal ^ | April 8, 2018 | Kelsey Harkness

Posted on 04/09/2018 4:57:45 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
At one point, she told a friend on her track team that she was pregnant and placing her child for adoption. His response was less than supportive. “If you don’t get an abortion, I will lose all respect for you,” Kelly remembered him saying. “I was horrified,” Kelly said. “You call yourself pro-choice, but where’s my choice? It’s my choice to choose adoption.”

Kelly if this guy were in charge you'd probably be sterilized. You should be proud that close minded thug doesn't respect you.

41 posted on 04/09/2018 7:57:34 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All we hear is second hand info about the dad. I wonder why?


42 posted on 04/09/2018 8:18:15 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: Celerity

I counsel some girls to keep their babies. These are the young women who need to be nurturers. Their lives are fulfilled with motherhood. Each has gone on to find a loving man willing to marry and be a faithful father and husband. For them abortion would have devastated their lives and brought them into terrible depression.


43 posted on 04/09/2018 8:19:38 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Islam is Satans finest work.)
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To: cnsmom
Did Something That Today, Few Teens Do, cnsmom wrote: I had 3 rules for my daughters in high school and I repeated them every time they’d go out at night 1. Don’t drink and drive 2. Don’t ride with someone that has been drinking 3. Keep your underpants on at all times. They survived high school

Add a couple of more:

4) The driver will not Text, ever, you answer the phone.
5) Stay away from Muslims
6) Stay away from pitbulls
7) Stay away from Eric Holder's people and Obama's sons
8) Stay the hell away from drugs.
9) If the cops find my revolver in your purse: keep your mouth shut and speed dial the family lawyer.

44 posted on 04/09/2018 8:22:07 AM PDT by DCBryan1 (Quit calling them liberals, progressives, or Democrats. Call them what they are: COMMUNISTS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m with Roseanne on this one.

I’m certainly happy she didn’t have an abortion, but what a selfish, me, me, me, person.

You GAVE AWAY your CHILD! Like it was a piece of property. Did you advertise on eBay?

This woman is no saint, she’s deplorable.

And she wasn’t a “teen”. She was an adult.


45 posted on 04/09/2018 8:30:33 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: wbarmy
fairly sure if one of our daughters got pregnant out of wedlock, my wife and I would raise the child.

I agree 100%.

Regards,

46 posted on 04/09/2018 8:52:08 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: wbarmy

I faced this situation last year. My daughter who has nearly straight A’s and has stayed out of trouble all through high school turned up pregnant as a 17 yr. old. I suspected it from her being sick in the mornings and my Mom who has this strange ability came to me and said your daughter is pregnant, I dreamed it last night. Sure enough two weeks later she had the baby daddys, great grandmother call my wife and tell her.

We were still stunned, shocked and disappointed as she had been given the facts of life early on. Still we got supported her pregnancy, took her to the doctor throughout the pregnancy and nearly lost her and the baby with a month early premature C-section. The baby was in the NICU for nearly three weeks having been born at a little over 3 lbs.

She wanted to keep the baby and we supported her. Her church supported her as well, being pro-life. She maintained her grades and works two days a week on the weekend to make her car payment each month. My wife has taken a second job to pay for the daycare, but it is worth it for the little blessing that our grandson is.

Sadly the babies father essentially is worthless and has contributed nothing towards the care of the child. His mother is a pill head and drug dealer and his grandparents, one of whom is bipolar, have raised him. They have offered no help either yet demand to see the child at their convenience without supervision.

Finally my daughter who turned 18 a few months ago put her foot down and told them if I am not welcome in your home, my baby isn’t coming there unsupervised. She has offered many times to meet them at a public, neutral sight for visits and they have turned her down. Currently she is being sued by the great grandmother for custody because they want unlimited visitation. Total mess. But the little guy is worth the fight!!! We go to court this afternoon for a custody hearing, pray for us!


47 posted on 04/09/2018 8:54:16 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Varda
The studies of grandparents and single mothers raising children are pretty conclusive. It damages the child (lesser outcomes than children raised by 2 parents).

That may be true (across all families throughout the U.S.) - I would assume that the "stain" of illegitimacy would tend to cling to such a child (as opposed to one adopted out) - but I would still focus all of my efforts upon retaining the child in our family.

Regards,

48 posted on 04/09/2018 8:55:42 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek; wbarmy

Keep in mind that, whatever your intention, it is not legally your decision. You could go to court and try to get a judge to override your daughter’s decision either to place her child for adoption or to parent independently, but the likelihood of that’s working is very slight.


49 posted on 04/09/2018 9:52:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I have the easiest life in the history of the world.)
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To: sarge83

You have my prayers!


50 posted on 04/09/2018 9:53:25 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I have the easiest life in the history of the world.)
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To: faucetman

My mother was a single Mom for most of my childhood. Although my Dad stayed very involved in my life and helped support her after the divorce, things were still very difficult for her.

No husband = no ideal environment for a kid. Her current boyfriend, rather than sticking with her, cheated on her.


51 posted on 04/09/2018 10:11:55 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The US Constitution ....... Invented by geniuses and God .... Administered by morons ......)
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To: Bodega
I think we need to teach boys and girls with visual teaching aids the consequences of promiscuity. And we must hold boys as accountable as the girls. No ands, ifs or buts.

This is so true!

52 posted on 04/09/2018 11:02:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: Varda; wbarmy
Do a general search on the subject. It's been studied for many years. It's the basic reason the ghetto is like it is. That's not to say individuals can't beat the odds but the odds are against them

It's not appropriate to compare the typical grandparent adoption in the ghetto to the grandparent adoption in, dare I say it, in financially stable white Christian families.

Nothing against the valiant ghetto grandmoms who rescue their grandchildren from their druggie kids—they deserve credit (unless the problem is that they had illegitimate kids when they were 15 and the cycle is repeating). But the cultures, as of now have been vastly different.

Unfortunately at this present time, the rate of illegitimacy among blacks is three times as high as among whites, and the rates of teen pregnancy and drug abuse are also skewed upward for blacks.

It's not pleasant to hear, but unless the studies you cite also break down the financial status of the adoptive couple, whether the grandparents are married and both the biological relatives of the child, and whether the surrounding community is on the low end or the high end of illegitimacy and single parenthood and social disorder, simple math lumps too many culturally disadvantaged cases against the so-called "average."

53 posted on 04/09/2018 11:14:08 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: Nailbiter

It’s not grandparent adoption that makes the difference in outcomes blacks vs whites. It’s culture, the presence or absence of marriage and biological relation to the baby of the grandparents, and their economic stability. Also the age of the women who get pregnant; in urban communities it is much lower than in majority white communities. There is less economic ability for a single parent from the ghetto to have adequate income. Bashing the noble grandparents who try to rescue their grandchildren is to simplistic an answer.


54 posted on 04/09/2018 11:18:07 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: wbarmy
This girl decided to give up her child for others to take care of, while she still gets to go see him from time to time. You know, whenever she feels like it.

The article said she sees him twice a year. More frequency or more erratically scheduled visits could lead to emotional chaos for the adults and confusion for the child. They are not sharing custody -- the adopters ARE the parents.

55 posted on 04/09/2018 11:21:04 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: wbarmy
This girl just found a way to get someone else to take care of her kid, because that kid will always know who the real parent is.

I repeat, the real parents are the parents who adopted the child, committed themselves to the child, raise the child and meet the child's needs. The biological mother is not the "real" parent. She was a gestational carrier, and a noble one who did the best thing for her child.

56 posted on 04/09/2018 11:23:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: RFEngineer
All we hear is second hand info about the dad. I wonder why?

Did you even read the article? They "discussed marriage," but he cheated on her while she was pregnant and then dumped her, after being her boyfriend for 8 years. (Apparently they had met in middle school.) So, no, he didn't step up. Nor is she under any obligation to say nice things about him in her article.

57 posted on 04/09/2018 11:31:57 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: faucetman
I’m certainly happy she didn’t have an abortion, but what a selfish, me, me, me, person. You GAVE AWAY your CHILD! Like it was a piece of property. Did you advertise on eBay? This woman is no saint, she’s deplorable.

Having been raised by parents who married young and never fully martured emotionally, I must say your opinion is very judgmental and short-sighted.

It is hell to grow up with an immature parent who lashes out and neglects essentials because they simply do not know any better. I left home at 17 and never went back, and I'm a female. I purposely did not have a child until my late 30s, when I had partially gotten over what happened to me and my siblings (it will never be fully over), but it was only by the grace of God and the availability of birth control that I wasn't in her place, faced with the prospect of taking my family's hurts out on an innocent child.

A baby truly is not a football. There are lots of childless couples who would love to adopt a child from an immature parent and provide what she could not provide: a stable, two-parent home. Rant all you want about getting pregnant out of wedlock, but once it happened and the boy dumped her also, a decision had to be made.

She was not thinking only of herself; but rather she was doing the best thing for the child after the father of the child proved unwilling to step up and she honestly recognized that she was unprepared to accept the enormous responsibility of raising a child as a single mother.

58 posted on 04/09/2018 11:45:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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To: wbarmy

“Not to be judgmental...”

You are being judgmental!


59 posted on 04/09/2018 11:45:41 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: sarge83
Hope you're on the west coast, as it's noon there and I'm just now seeing this at nearly 3 pm eastern.

I do pray, Father God, for the little child in this chaotic situation, that Your Plan for this child will be fully enacted through the events in this courtroom and subsequent actions of the family.
Bless this little child, Lord, with the knowledge of You, his Savior, and see that loving Christians come alongside him all through his young life to lead him and his parents to Your loving care, Your promises for them, and their need for repentance and sober judgment on behalf of the child. May they realize early on that they are raising a future adult, and not make a plaything of this little boy, but rather give him wisdom, courage, and all the support they can muster that is within Your Will for him.
I pray these things in Jesus' holy name,
Amen.

60 posted on 04/09/2018 11:52:56 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (We're even doing the right thing for them. They just don't know it yet. --Donald Trump, CPAC '18)
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