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California Newborn DNA Database Shocks Parents
CBS Sacramento ^ | May 14, 2018

Posted on 05/14/2018 10:00:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

SACRAMENTO - DNA is back in the spotlight, cracking cold cases. But questions are being raised after the state spent decades collecting the DNA of infants without parents realizing it.

California has been collecting newborn blood samples since 1983.

Many parents were shocked to hear their children’s blood is being stored in a state database, and possibly even sold to outside researchers. Pricking the toes newborns, to test their blood for certain disorders. The remaining blood becomes “property of the state,” and could be shared with outside researchers.

“I feel like that’s something that should have been discussed with us, in person, not on whatever page in a document,” said one mom.

The state tells new parents about it, hidden on page 13 of a 14-page pamphlet, and California can hold onto those samples indefinitely.

“These samples are needed to create new testing technology,” said Fred Lorey.

Lorey used to run California’s Genetic Disease Screening Program and says the blood spots are de-identified.

That means no name or medical information, just the blood and a number.

“There is no such thing as de-identified DNA,” said Jamie Court, head of Consumer Watchdog. Court points to the arrest of Joseph DeAngelo, the suspected East Area Rapist, reportedly identified when his DNA was matched with a profile on a public ancestry site.

“There should be a state audit of what’s happened with this program and the types of uses for this DNA, and there should be a recommendation to the legislator,” Court added.

California is not saying exactly what happens with these blood samples after reaching the state’s bio-lab, but parents can request the state destroy their child’s blood samples.

“The burden’s on you, a sleepless new mom, to remember to call them, and then follow up,” said another mom.

Nearly every state requires the blood tests. But the difference is other states destroy it, some after a year.

California is one of four states storing blood spots indefinitely in a state-run “bio-bank”.


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1 posted on 05/14/2018 10:00:59 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Think of it as “science” in action...nothing could possibly go wrong... :-(


2 posted on 05/14/2018 10:03:19 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The children’s blood will testify against the parents. How Cal-Orwellian...


3 posted on 05/14/2018 10:04:37 AM PDT by null and void (Urban "food deserts," are caused by "climate change" in urban customers' attitudes (H/T niteowl77))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“These samples are needed to create new testing technology plan for the elimination of undesirables,” said Fred Lorey.

Correction applied.

4 posted on 05/14/2018 10:05:47 AM PDT by Noumenon (It isn't racist if it's true, is it?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Amazing that Californicator land can find money to do these sub rosa DNA tests and not have money/funding to run DNA thousands of rape kits for years.


5 posted on 05/14/2018 10:06:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If the samples are truly de-identified, I don't have a big problem with it. At that point it's just a large database of DNA sequences. It could be used to track the incidence of genetic mutations over time, but couldn't be used to correlate with things like individual susceptibility to disease, or individual school performance, etc. It could, however, be used to correlate many things with ancestral origins etc.
6 posted on 05/14/2018 10:06:35 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The remaining blood becomes “property of the state,” “

Well why should that drop of blood be treated any differently than the rest of the body? /s


7 posted on 05/14/2018 10:10:45 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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One of my siblings gave me an Ancestors DNA kit for Christmas.

I checked with our adult children if that would be okay. As my DNA test might impact them or their kids.

They said go ahead and do it. Apparently, this was not a hard secret.

Our adult off spring and their spouses said that every time we have blood drawn for a lab test, that probably goes to some DNA collection that we know nothing of.

Again, it is amazing how California can find money for this and not be able to fund the DNA testing in rape kits for years. Of course, they probably made money from the tests of new born and would have to pay for DNA testing of rape kits.


8 posted on 05/14/2018 10:13:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: neverevergiveup

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB222

Text of the bill regarding this and informed consent is required

As to the issue of non identifiable there is no such thing, this is the premise of all of the DNA services is to match th individual to others. As the sample base grows the precision of matching “blind” samples grown narrower.
Last, what was the purpose of sampling all newborns in the first place, I do not trust them one second that the samples and the source are not connected

I call BS!


9 posted on 05/14/2018 10:15:40 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Grampa Dave

“...and not have money/funding to run DNA thousands of rape kits for years.”

Wisconsin has the same back log. I imagine all of our states do to some extent or another.

Why, then, aren’t these situations rectified wherever the all-knowing, all-seeing, compassionate, PRO-WOMEN Democrats are in charge?

*SNORT*


10 posted on 05/14/2018 10:18:54 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, California wants single payer health insurance and has started surreptitiously building it - currently under federal funds. If they succeed, they can “share” the DNA information on California residents with their medical insurance arm to determine who is worth “saving” or treating. Hey maybe they are already selling it to private insurance companies to help them vet applicants. Could share the information with state and local government agencies to help them determine who is worth hiring (help them manage their employee insurance). They could share it with colleges and schools to help them determine who should be admitted or receive financial aid/scholarships). The uses are endless.
We have been used without our consent of course, but that doesn’t matter. The State can sell our blood, collect the profits, and weed us out of countless venues -what’s the harm.


11 posted on 05/14/2018 10:19:51 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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C’mon, You Guys! They started this in 1983 to s-l-o-w-l-y work up to micro-chipping and bar-coding your kid at birth. Better check the back side of their ears for tattoos...just in case.

In the meantime, just lie back and think of England.

*SMIRK*


12 posted on 05/14/2018 10:21:01 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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13 posted on 05/14/2018 10:21:53 AM PDT by z3n
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

NO FR reader should be surprised. They f*ckheads in CA OWN you. They own your blood. They own your rights. They own your mind. They own your kids. They own your money. Don’t be shocked when you hear that they take blood without telling you. They already send kids to the sex-”change” doctor without telling parents. They already give girls an abortion without telling the parents. They already teach fist *****ng without telling the parents. They already promote gay sex without telling parents.
So this is no surprise at all.


14 posted on 05/14/2018 10:26:31 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle. -Nietzche)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“These samples are needed to create new testing technology,” said Fred Lorey.

I'm sure that Josef Mengele justified his abuses as "needed," too. These newborns still have fourth amendment protections no matter how young they are. There is no probable cause for the state to take their DNA without consent, and there should be no "opt out" construct that depends on stressed out parents in labor to affirmatively choose.

-PJ

15 posted on 05/14/2018 10:29:39 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

California the communists capitol of America. Next they will install a chip in all babies born. We are on the verge of the loss of freedom and forever a slave of the State. Will go national wide within a few years. Watch and see.


16 posted on 05/14/2018 10:32:15 AM PDT by Logical me
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but parents can request the state destroy their child’s blood samples.

And given the trustworthiness of the State, I'm certain that they will get right to this...

17 posted on 05/14/2018 10:41:56 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

and not have money/funding to run DNA thousands of rape kits for years.”

Wisconsin has the same back log. I imagine all of our states do to some extent or another.


Why, then, aren’t these situations rectified wherever the all-knowing, all-seeing, compassionate, PRO-WOMEN Democrats are in charge?

*SNORT*

For the same reason, liberal females in New York did not pull the trigger on the NY AG.


18 posted on 05/14/2018 10:44:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Democrats are having trouble with their MAMA campaign, (Make America Mexico Again), versus MAGA!)
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To: Grampa Dave

“One of my siblings gave me an Ancestors DNA kit for Christmas.

I checked with our adult children if that would be okay. As my DNA test might impact them or their kids.”

http://www.newsweek.com/how-method-used-identify-golden-state-killer-could-be-used-track-down-zodiac-916453

Yes it can have repercussions.


19 posted on 05/14/2018 10:54:16 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE
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To: z3n
I am not Gerome Morrow
20 posted on 05/14/2018 11:26:39 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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