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To: pepsionice
The problem here is that this has become a complicated story (maybe intentionally).

Not complicated. The obama administration weaponized the FISA court and the FBI to spy on the opposition party.

The FBI placed or obtained a spy in the campaign.

The FBI was spying on the opponent of the democrats in more than one way. The reason you think it's complicated is because the MSM is ignoring these huge facts.

Did the Russians conspire to convince people to vote a certain way?

yes they did as they have been doing for the past 80 years. Just as China has been spying on the US and performing industrial espionage.
Just as our allies spy on us.

If they did...are we talking about more than the number of dead people that vote in each election?

who cares we always work to minimize the effects of our enemies in our free and open society.

Did McCain involve himself into a fake fact campaign? Did McCain even know any facts?

McCain is a bit player and likely a useful idiot in all of this. The fact that his pettiness drove him to obtain a copy of the Steele dossier was just icing on the cake for the criminals in the government.

Did two fake intellectual/fake GOP consultants insert something into reality from Europe?

Who cares the FBI was spying on an American citizen with no criminal record and who was duly elected by a major political party to run for president of the United States.

We were very close to becoming a technology driven police state. Where computers do the dirty work and the FBI processes the fallout. That should scare you. The fact the FBI hasn't been shut down at this point should scare you.

43 posted on 05/18/2018 6:53:49 PM PDT by stig
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To: stig
>>Did the Russians conspire to convince people to vote a certain way?<<

yes they did as they have been doing for the past 80 years.

But they've been nowhere nearly as effective as they were in the 1960s, when the Soviets convinced the entire democRAT party to become a bunch of wild-eyed communists.

They've been that way ever since.

44 posted on 05/18/2018 7:07:15 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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