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Santa Fe shooter killed girl who turned down his advances
The Hill ^ | 05-19-2018 | John Bowden

Posted on 05/19/2018 6:53:58 PM PDT by Trump20162020

The 17-year-old suspect in Friday's shooting at a Texas high school killed a classmate who turned down his repeated advances, killing her first in his deadly rampage that also killed nine others, according to the girl's mother.

Student Shana Fisher's mother told the LA Times that junior Dimitrios Pagourtzis gave her daughter "4 months of problems" before Fisher rejected him publicly in front of classmates.

"A week later he opens fire on everyone he didn't like," she wrote to the newspaper. "Shana being the first one."

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: dimitriospagourtzis; greece; greek; incel; incels; pagourtzis; santafe; santafehighschool
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To: unlearner

I attended a routine council meeting in our area and someone asked, Does the high school have metal detectors and the answer was No. The response of someone connected with the school board said basically that it would paralyze the daily operations of the school to have crowds of students backed up in lines going through a check point, the detectors don’t catch everything (some guns are now plastic), and the threat of a live shooting is still rare compared to the number of schools in operation.


101 posted on 05/20/2018 6:58:50 AM PDT by Ciexyz (I have one issue and it's my economic well-being.)
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To: tinyowl
"We must outlaw women turning down men."

Bernie Sanders will propose government guaranteed Lewinsky's (jobs).

102 posted on 05/20/2018 6:59:28 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: rollo tomasi
I agree with you 100%. And I accept the correction: I hadn't realized that "incel" is a derogatory term.

My husband and I both believe that it's a bad thing for women and men alike, if they get this idea that "everybody's doin' it" and therefore if they themselves are not, it must be because they're sexually retarded or they're being rejected & disrespected.

We live in such a sexually distorted society.

103 posted on 05/20/2018 7:08:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Whatever is pure, anything of excellence, and anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these thing)
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To: familyop
And what has been said about a "woman scorned?"

But it was said by a man. The vengeful woman of male-created literature is about as common as the romantic man of female-created literature.

104 posted on 05/20/2018 7:25:52 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Az Joe
You are a liar. Women being rejected are much more likely to act unfavorably. You are a liar.

If you look at the murder rates, you'll find that women rejecting or abandoning a man are far more likely to be killed by that man than a man leaving a woman is. She may steal his bank account, she may key his car, she may talk about him on social media, she may burn his clothes... but the murderers are generally men. The prisons are full of mostly men, and there's a reason for it.

105 posted on 05/20/2018 7:28:13 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

One reason for it is that the winner always ends up in handcuffs and the loser ends up with a restyraining order. And, 99% of the time, when a woman starts it, she is the one who ends up on the floor.


106 posted on 05/20/2018 7:30:16 AM PDT by anton
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To: Az Joe; anton; familyop

According to Divorce Support, the most recent statistics for homicides in which the victim-killer relationship was known, 31 percent of female victims were killed by an intimate partner. Only 4 percent of male victims were killed by an intimate partner. They reference Bureau of Justice statistics.


107 posted on 05/20/2018 7:38:58 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: cherry

Don’t kid yourself, the war on boys, or more accurately, the war on the Western judeo-Christian ideal of manly behavior, is just as real as the war on that same ideal for girls.


108 posted on 05/20/2018 7:46:13 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Jamestown1630

What they’ve been missing is respect for civilized male, and female, behavior in their culture.


109 posted on 05/20/2018 7:48:10 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trump20162020

“Public humiliation” is one of those trigger events common to these kinds of shootings.

I am not blaming the girl. Anyone should be able to say, “Not interested” and not be in fear of their lives.

But if there is a stalker-like behavior there should be someone these kids could turn to in order to give the authorities a heads up. They used to tell their Dads. And one dad would talk to the other dad. But that doesn’t happen any more.


110 posted on 05/20/2018 7:50:25 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: VanDeKoik

I hear you. Instead of blaming someone else, use the experience to make yourself stronger. It’s excellent advice.


111 posted on 05/20/2018 7:51:41 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: unlearner

“Cherry is a feminist for calling out your stupid post?”

............

From her OP:

“the war on boys continues...poor liddle boys... “

It isnt hard to tell when a supposed conservative uses the same mocking and dismissive language against males that the typical pussy hat wearing tub of lard uses.

“Quit while you are ahead.”

I dont have to quit anything. When a group of overly-sensitive girls cant derive intention and meaning from a post, and instead go off into some meltdown because apparently it hit a little to close to the truth for them, then that is their problem, not mine.

I didn’t make a mistake. They need to “woman up” and try to think before they emote.


112 posted on 05/20/2018 7:52:38 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: A_perfect_lady

Wow, men can be violent. You seem quite proud of yourself for that remarkable insight.


113 posted on 05/20/2018 7:53:04 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Seaplaner

Adderall is not an ssri. Aderral will not affect your brain in any way that it makes people act violently.

SSRIs? If he went off them cold turkey, there would be problems. But not going off of amphetamines. Withdrawal. Sure. But not deep crazy.


114 posted on 05/20/2018 7:53:55 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: VanDeKoik

When they mock the continued denigration of the traditional attempts to channel male impulses in a positive way, they seem oblivious to the fact that it leaves them at the mercy of animals like this kid.


115 posted on 05/20/2018 8:02:32 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

No, I’m just amazed that anyone took issue with this well-known fact.


116 posted on 05/20/2018 8:10:30 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

No, you limited “act unfavorably” to just violence. Either dishonestly or out of willful blindness.


117 posted on 05/20/2018 8:15:06 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
No, a poster talking to me took my initial comment in post #42 about reacting with violence and tried to expand it, in post #77, into "act unfavorably." But I am not going to be dragged off point. I am sticking to what I originally said in post #42. Women may "react unfavorably," but this whole thread is about a man reacting with deadly violence, and I am saying this is not a product of feminism. It's been around since the dawn of time. Indeed, chivalry of the sort feminists hate is about the only thing keeping this violence at bay. Do not conflate me with cherry, the poster on here who made the snide "poor liddle boys" remark. That was not me.
118 posted on 05/20/2018 8:21:54 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: Trump20162020

I’m surprised she rejected him, after all he was on the football team.


119 posted on 05/20/2018 8:23:25 AM PDT by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Exactly.

This guy was a wound-up time bomb, who could have been diffused long ago if people would open their eyes and stop thinking that just calling him a loser and heaping more scorn onto them is “helping”. Males are being bottled-up from the things that made the cheap pursuit of female validation less of a make-or-break part of their identity.

Males are being detached from stuff that used to give them a sense of self independent of these goofy high school cliques. Virtually anything males have been into is now under constant attack. Even the outlets that the nerds and geeks proudly retreated to are no longer safe. Comic books, STEM, ROTC, the scouts? All full of people telling them they suck even more than the jocks and the “hot girls”.

So now this new crop of young dudes are now plugged into corners on the internet that are telling them to “get even and get fame” because where else do they now have?

And now we have a bunch of dead people.

Wasn’t the first time this happen. Wont be the last.


120 posted on 05/20/2018 8:25:33 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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