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Can 30,000 Cameras Help Solve Chicago’s Crime Problem?
The New York Times ^ | 26 May 2018 | Timothy Williams

Posted on 05/26/2018 1:33:10 PM PDT by Theoria

Armed with advanced gadgets and mapping, officers can get to crime scenes “in time to see the guy still shooting.” But what does it mean for residents’ privacy?

Just after 3 a.m. on May 4, a police officer received an alert that gunshots had been fired near an alley in a neighborhood known as the Back of the Yards.

The alert came from a hidden street sensor called a ShotSpotter, and the officer was able to pull up a map of nearby police cameras and review the video. Without leaving a room the size of a walk-in closet, he watched a man fire seven times, striking another man, who turned out to be a federal agent, in the face.

Switching from one high-definition camera to the next, the officer tracked the gunman as he fled. Unlike the grainy security videos of old, the picture quality from the cameras, which are equipped with night vision technology, was so pristine that the officer was able to watch the man wipe sweat off his face.

The tiny rooms have a large-sounding name, Strategic Decision Support Centers, and provide a peek into what could be the future of urban American policing — if they do not run afoul of American notions of privacy. They can deliver the license plate of every passing vehicle, a photo of every area resident with an arrest record, gang boundaries, 911 reports and more, right to a patrol officer’s cellphone.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: cameras; chicago; crime; illinois; policestate; privacy; surveillance
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To: Steely Tom

“Depends on who they hire to watch the video coming from the cameras.”

Generally, everyone has given it up as hopeless and don’t give a flying rip.


21 posted on 05/26/2018 2:30:00 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Theoria

The ferals will either steal or shoot the cameras. Idiots.


22 posted on 05/26/2018 2:31:59 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Theoria
Armed with advanced gadgets and mapping, officers can get to crime scenes “in time to see the guy still shooting.”

Bullshit.

23 posted on 05/26/2018 2:32:54 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: mylife
It's too late. The cameras are here to stay. Most of the streets of Manhattan are already under constant 24/7 surveillance. I found this out a few months ago when an employee - who got into a shoving match with a fellow subway passenger - was tracked all the way to my office by camera. The police showed up 10 minutes later and had the entire video of him walking from Grand Central.

Technology is such that cameras will soon be the size of dimes and be on every telephone pole in America.

On the highways, you now have high-speed cameras that can snap crystal clear photos of the license plate of every single automobile (as well as driver) - even at speeds up to 100mph. They do this under the guise of toll collection but law enforcement also has access to the archives and will soon be able to retroactively (or in real time) map out the routes of any automobile, given a plate number.

Not saying I agree with it but it's here. It's quite possible that people being born today will have every second of their public lives recorded for posterity. Their only privacy will be in their own homes and even that will be suspect as parents and spouses can easily wire their homes to see what their children or spouses are doing at every moment. Soon, cameras will be the size of a grain of sand and be virtually undetectable.

24 posted on 05/26/2018 2:35:57 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Theoria

They’ll put up cameras... and then go nuts citing and arresting decent people who may walk or miss the stupid, revenue earning laws and regulations


25 posted on 05/26/2018 2:36:02 PM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Sooth2222

I respect these guys a lot more than all the male weenies in the world who let the Opticon watch their lives.


26 posted on 05/26/2018 2:38:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftists today are speaking as if they plan to commence to commit genocide against conservatives.)
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To: jazminerose

Change the rules of engagement for the police and the law-abiding residents. The problem and troublemakers will soon learn.


27 posted on 05/26/2018 2:38:37 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: C210N

Great point.
Better than Wal-Mart People 24/7 with revenues going to law enforcement. They could blur out some faces to protect the guilty. (Sorry, Jack Webb. I watch my complete set Dragnet dvds every night. Loved his work.)


28 posted on 05/26/2018 2:39:30 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorhip or we're finishid.)
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To: SamAdams76

I learned a lot from your post.

I knew at the start that the monitors watching the camera view were subject to making blackmail propositions to people. They are NOT Norman Vincent Peale, they are often security guard type ordinary guys (like airport security).

They say the most common views from indoor camera viewing are directed to look up women’s dresses or down their cleavages. The first news report on that was when police were disappointed at NOT seeing the crime views because the males were watching women.


29 posted on 05/26/2018 2:44:52 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorhip or we're finishid.)
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To: jazminerose

Good post.

I think when David Hogg hears about this he’ll shout out:
“Cameras? Cameras?” And ask mommy and daddy for some quick cash to fly to Chicago.
Mommy: “I’m a little short this week. Go ask your buddy Soros for money like before.”


30 posted on 05/26/2018 2:53:53 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorhip or we're finishid.)
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To: Theoria
No.

The cameras won't show us anything we don't know already.

The only thing that would work to solve Chicagos' (or any other urban district) crime problem is to truthfully and honestly discuss many issues deemed off limits.

No problem can ever be solved until you get to the truth of the matter.

31 posted on 05/26/2018 2:54:33 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: frank ballenger
I commute on the Metro North from Connecticut to NYC. Just within the past month, surveillance cameras are now on every car. So my entire commute is now being recorded and as soon as I get to Grand Central, I already know that I'm being recorded all the way to my office.

I'm not 100% sure but I think that the elevators in my building also now have cameras, hidden in the monitors that show ads, weather, sports scores and breaking news.

The pace of video surveillance in public areas is rapidly accelerating.


32 posted on 05/26/2018 2:54:42 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Theoria

30,000 cameras?

Gangsta target practice.


33 posted on 05/26/2018 3:09:37 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Sooth2222

Great series.


34 posted on 05/26/2018 3:10:49 PM PDT by moovova
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To: Theoria

No. Prosecuting the criminals and deporting the illegals will.

The cameras will just record the event, which in itself does nothing unless it’s used.


35 posted on 05/26/2018 3:15:58 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: moovova
"Great series."

Best crime drama series, ever.

IMO.

36 posted on 05/26/2018 3:16:13 PM PDT by Sooth2222 (Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.")
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To: moovova

A scope on 1000+ fps .177 pellet gun just to make it sporting.


37 posted on 05/26/2018 3:23:12 PM PDT by chief lee runamok
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To: Theoria

30,000 will fail.

Next they’ll try 60,000.

That will fail.

Hmmm... maybe 600,000? A million? 10 million?


38 posted on 05/26/2018 4:34:25 PM PDT by null and void (Urban "food deserts," are caused by "climate change" in urban customers' attitudes (H/T niteowl77))
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To: Theoria

Waste of money.


39 posted on 05/26/2018 4:39:16 PM PDT by pt17
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To: PGalt
They don't need a surveillance drone over Chi-Town, they need an AC-130 gunship.

Slave it to ShotSpotter and you've got a winner.

40 posted on 05/26/2018 4:57:10 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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