Posted on 06/01/2018 11:10:05 AM PDT by richardb72
Gun control advocates seem willing to latch onto anything they can use to justify more stringent laws. They were at it again in the wake of the recent Santa Fe High School shooting. In the New York Times last Thursday, Nicholas Kristof pushed for 10 supposedly “modest” gun control measures.
Everyone wants to do something to stop mass public shootings. Kristof is right that fewer school doors aren’t the solution. Schools have as many entrances as they do for a reason (such as escaping fires). One door with a metal detector won't help if the guard is the first person killed, and lining up a large number of students at one entrance creates an attractive target for killers to attack there.
But we also have to be careful that the gun control laws primarily disarm criminals, not law-abiding citizens. There has to be reasonable evidence that the regulations reduce crime. Let’s take a look at these proposals.
Universal background checks
Two points supposedly support background checks on private transfers of guns. A survey showing that 22% of U.S. guns obtained in the last two years were acquired without a background check. But this is mainly a result of inheritances (presumably, mainly within families) and, to a lesser extent, gifts. No evidence is provided that guns acquired through inheritance are commonly used in crime. The survey claims that 16% of people bought a gun at a store without undergoing a background check, but this is illegal everywhere in the U.S. It is not a credible claim.
Other surveys show 90% of people support these checks. But when these laws were put on the ballots in Nevada and Maine in 2016, they had a hard time breaking 50%, despite Michael Bloomberg outspending his opponents by 3-to-1 or 6-to-1margins.
Closing the Charleston Loophole....
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
It will accomplish what’s intended-punishment of nonconformist thinking. It’s not about guns. It’s about power.
It accomplishes exactly what it’s intended to asccomplish.
More people are killed by knives than guns in this country.
But you don’t see liberals push for knife control.
[[No evidence to support the efficacy of more gun control]]
What? Chicago is a rousing success. Gun control works- just ask the thousands of dead folks who were unable to defend themselves because only criminals had guns in chicago.
“But you don’t see liberals push for knife control.”
You must have missed this:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/04/09/london-mayor-knife-control/500328002/
The left wants universal background checks because it is defacto gun registration. You would have to retain proof of undergoing a background check. And, the government would retain a record of your check.
To pretend security obstacles like lines at scanners cannot be overcome is to deny years and years of experience accomplishing just that.
Typical for liberals. It’s all about making them feel good, whether it works or not.
The Government already collects the 4473 sheets on all gun transactions that is their gun registration scheme.
Communists and other leftistw DONT WANT Americans able to defend themselves. It interferes with their goal of control.
BAN LEFTISTS, NOT GUNS
As fellow FReeper frank ballenger pointed out in another related thread, school shooting are mostly carried out by students of that same school.
They know the school layout, where security is located, best modes of entrance and exit. They are there every day...planning.
In most cases, the kid was known and may warning flags were present. This is not a gun control issue, this is a school administration issue.
And in much the same way that most students will not act up in the presence of a teacher. Most student shooters will not act up in the presence of an “Armed” teacher.
Never ever has there been evidence. Anyone spending time and money on this witch hunt is stupid.
One Hundred Million dead in the 20th Century, victims of their own governments, indicate that gun control has been fabulously effective in the primary mission, which is to facilitate tyrannical government and enable mass murder.
The trick is to “BAN SOMETHING, ANYTHING!” Then used that ban to move against other firearms. They have been doing this since 1968.
The trick is to “BAN SOMETHING, ANYTHING!” Then used that ban to move against other firearms. They have been doing this since 1968.
BobinIL wrote: The Government already collects the 4473 sheets on all gun transactions that is their gun registration scheme.
No, the 4473 sheets are not collected by the government but are retained by the seller.
IIRC, that is true until the dealer goes out of business (for whatever reason). At that point, the 4473's are collected by the BATFE.
Hate to say it but in California you must fill out 2 (two) 4473 forms.... 1 for the feds and one for the state. This is bald face precursor for the state to take guns away despite the 2A......
As for gun confiscation, for the present, I don’t believe that the California State Government has yet lost enough of it’s mind to engage in wholesale confiscations.....even here such an act would be met with stiff resistance.....ALL the local police and Sheriffs know this and would not obey an order for it. (besides most are 2A supporters)
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