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Insurrection is Here; How Long do We have Until Civil War 2.0 Starts?
american thinker ^ | 6/25/2018 | Peter Barry Chowka

Posted on 06/27/2018 9:53:44 PM PDT by bitt

Organized lawlessness is spreading to cities across the United States but the news is almost totally ignored and blacked out by the mainstream media.

These ominous uprisings are taking various forms but the most visible and aggressive ones involve Antifa-style “occupy” socialist and anarchist street mobs dedicated to taking down ICE – U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the federal government policing agency that is part of the Department of Homeland Security. The impetus for these actions has been the anti-President Trump Fake News psy-op meme that claims minor children of illegal immigrants arrested for crashing the U.S./Mexico border are being separated from their parents, sent to “Nazi”-like “concentration camps,” and systematically mistreated.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antifa; cw2; djt; insurrection; potus; radicals; theleft; violence
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To: HiTech RedNeck; SaveFerris; MHGinTN; metmom; Gamecock; aMorePerfectUnion
The devil, however, wants Christians to think that worldly. For then they will be little spiritual threat to him.

Dude, get a grip. You are no threat to the devil, if you are dead either. I fought the Cold War for a long time. I have been through Check Point Charlie, and saw the rather poignant statement “You are leaving the American sector.” I have been in the belly of the beast, in East Berlin, and seen Soviet tanks up close. I have watched Soviet Air Force war games. I don’t know for sure, but maybe you think the Soviets were there to protect the East Germans. I do not believe that for a second.
I don’t know if you are a 1st Timothy 5:8 type person or not. I certainly am not. This has nothing to do with turning the other cheek. This has to do with stopping some home grown communist, from killing you and your family. We can preach the gospel, after we disarm the chump that has a sharp bolo knife to your throat.
I carried weapons for 25 years, and was prepared to use it, in the defense of myself or others. You do it your way, and I will do it mine. Beyond that, there probably isn’t much of a reason to discuss anything with you bro. Bye.

21 posted on 06/28/2018 12:42:33 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Sorry, you have no idea of bible history where it’s pertinent here. Leaning on the “practical” arm of flesh will drag your spirit power down.

If Paul could walk a hundred miles the day after supposedly being “stoned to death” — I ain’t worrying along your lines! I’ll be a Paul. You can be, well, a Laodicean maybe I should say.


22 posted on 06/28/2018 12:47:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Whatever bro. Be whatever you like. It’s not all that important to me. Bye.


23 posted on 06/28/2018 12:50:39 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Suddenly you dodge away from any advanced level embrace of God. Why?


24 posted on 06/28/2018 12:51:53 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: buffyt
Civil war was all about states rights vs federal gov rights. They added slavery to get public support.

Quite right and that was the purpose of the Emancipation Proclamation.

25 posted on 06/28/2018 12:53:42 AM PDT by Robwin (very)
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To: Mark17

I think I know why: because it spells all manner of humblings and meek service you could not swallow. You’ve been all buzzed up on the worldly side of FR — as once was I. But it was ultimately like spiritual bubble gum. I needed more and God made my pride and self willed anger fail me.


26 posted on 06/28/2018 12:56:58 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Mark17

And buddy, if there’s any way to win people who have been caught up in the modern furor which calls itself liberal, but is actually as illiberal as a toddler in a tantrum — it’s to be meekly ready to talk reason once their heads, banged against the wall, are all bloody and blurred. Don’t focus your enemies by reacting how Satan gets them to imagine you will — with brute violence.


27 posted on 06/28/2018 1:08:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Unless you mean that metaphorically, it sounds fairly violent to me to bang somebody’s head against a wall until they come around to your point of view.

My take on Civil War 2.0, it has been happening at a political level since around 1992 and it intensified in several stages, most notable of them being the Obama ascendancy. This completed a revolution but did not quite bring on a one-party state although the Romney surrender was as close to de facto one party state politics as America would ever get, short of a formal declaration backed by police and military power.

The Trump election brings us to a counter-revolutionary push back phase that is nowhere near being consolidated. The revolutionaries are still in control of large segments of society. And they are very close to a return to political power at all levels.

A more literal civil war 2.0 with large scale violence will be difficult to organize on either side in part due to the scattered nature of combatants and in part due to the fog of ambiguity surrounding which side many people would choose if forced. Who exactly is going to engage with whom, and would it be pitched battles of groups, or roaming groups of small numbers looking for targets of opportunity?

At what level of engagement does civil unrest turn into civil war?

The dynamics of possible civil war in this instance appear to be small towns, suburbs and rural areas vs larger urban areas. As we all know, small numbers of sympathizers with each side are surrounded in each case by large numbers of the potential combatants. A small town liberal or a big city Trump supporter might be in danger of early extinction in any such large scale civil unrest, but I can’t really picture a battleground scenario because rural conservatives don’t want to live in big cities and vice versa.

Maybe it all goes away with a more decisive Trump win in 2020 followed by another strong conservative nationalist serving 2025 to 2032. That may erode the base of support for the far left back to 1980s levels where it’s just a small number having limited influence. That may be wishful thinking given the demographic forces at work.

I also think that the second coming may pre-empt this civil war or be the focal event bringing it on, or an event that ends it. This would transform the saved portiun of the U.S. into the nation that becomes the central point of the Kingdom. Events around the world would reflect this process and similar outcomes would occur.


28 posted on 06/28/2018 1:50:15 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Respect the law, enforce the law, improve the law -- and encourage leftists to meditate 24/7/365)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; metmom
Suddenly you dodge away from any advanced level embrace of God. Why?

You don’t know nothing about me bro. I think you are a random word generator. How many times do I have to tell you, I am not interested in discussing anything with you. Stop talking to me. BYE

29 posted on 06/28/2018 1:58:38 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Peter ODonnell; metmom; MHGinTN
Good post bro. We certainly don’t go looking for making agression type trouble, but if the BLM or ANTIFA thugs are coming through your door, you might have to do something. As another poster said, I prefer voting, over shooting. I think we would all prefer that. The problem is, will the other side be satisfied with that? I don’t know the answer to that question.
The ONLY POINT I am trying to make, is, insofar as it is up to us, live in peace. Again, the problem is, what will you do, if they are coming through your front door, with murder on their mind? The $64 dollar question. I don’t think I can preach to someone, who has a knife to my threat. If others can, more power to them.
30 posted on 06/28/2018 2:15:23 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Truthoverpower

You are over generalizing and underestimating the enemy. Fatal terrain. Many are armed and they continue to get more organized.


31 posted on 06/28/2018 2:20:50 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (.)
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To: Peter ODonnell
My take on Civil War 2.0, it has been happening at a political level since around 1992.

I could agree with that to a point, but even before I went to Vietnam in 1970, I thought we were going to have a civil war. At that time, of course, we had no internet, no alternative news, and had very little information available, unlike today.
I was in the military for 20 years. One (among many) of the reasons I stayed in, was because of those thoughts. It didn’t happen, of course, and I hope it doesn’t, but I figured the best place to be in a civil war, would be in the military. I trained on a variety of weapons in my career. All is not so bad, cuz I have been collecting retirement pay for quite some time, and still use my commissary and BX privileges, plus my Tri Care and VA benefits. 👍

32 posted on 06/28/2018 2:36:40 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: bitt

There will be one: alive-but-dying person who is qualified as a sniper. This person will probably not have any Christian convictions whatsoever. This one will research and stalk: an antifa agitator, a district judge who has been viciously anti-Constitutional, a bureaucrat who has legislated from her office, a state/county/local/school-board individual, who has gone off on conservatives as though we were nazis. That person will be offed from a great distance. Then others of similar stripe will begin to worry where the next will come from.

That is my prediction. It’s not what I want; it is what I predict will begin happening. The shooter will probably have some terminal illness, and will have had battlefield experience having done the same.


33 posted on 06/28/2018 2:57:22 AM PDT by Migraine
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To: JohnyBoy

IMO your scenario games it out about perfectly.


34 posted on 06/28/2018 3:01:33 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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To: bitt

These are mostly professional hired protesters find out where the money rain is and crush it


35 posted on 06/28/2018 3:02:53 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: JohnyBoy
When fighting Communists you either kill them, or they’ll murder you, your entire family, and the nation you love. There’s no half measures if you want to survive.

An historical truth worth repeating.
36 posted on 06/28/2018 3:10:05 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: bitt

This would be the first Civil War. The 1861 war was a failed war for independence. A civil war is a war where two sides try to take over a nation by violence. The 1861 war was horrible, but the bloodshed in a true American civil war would be unimaginable.


37 posted on 06/28/2018 3:24:57 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; Mark17

>>The devil, however, wants Christians to think that worldly. For then they will be little spiritual threat to him.

The Progressive/ Communist religion has watered down Christianity enough in our country that it is just a collection of empty rituals in all the Mainline Protestant denominations and far too many non-denoms.

God rescued Russia after about 70 years in the Communist wilderness. China and NK are at the end of their 70 years and they are showing signs of walking away from it. Perhaps that is the plan for America: 70 years of Communist deprivation to teach us the value of what’s really important.


38 posted on 06/28/2018 3:34:07 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: bitt

It has already started


39 posted on 06/28/2018 3:46:01 AM PDT by redgolum
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To: JohnyBoy
However, if Trump can ever get control of the DOJ and stack with real Trump supporters he’ll be able to arrest and lock away all the people pushing us towards war since all of them committed many, many crimes. However, that’s not looking terribly likely.

Just a quibble, but I think Trump is looking for law-and-order types, as opposed to "Trump supporters" for the purportedly non-political positions in the DOJ and FBI. AG/DAG is a political position, and FBI director is semi-political. The actual front line management in both is supposed to be apolitical, IMO.

Right now, the whole hierarchy seems infested with political animals left over from the Obama administration.

40 posted on 06/28/2018 4:03:34 AM PDT by MortMan (The white board is a remarkable invention.)
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