Posted on 06/29/2018 2:03:40 AM PDT by blueplum
Vice President Mike Pence demanded that Central American nations do more to stem illicit immigration, charging that few asylum seekers from the region had legitimate claims to safe haven in the United States.
“This exodus must end,” Pence told a meeting of leaders here Thursday from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras — which make up the so-called Northern Triangle that produces much of the illegal migration traffic to the U.S.-Mexico border. {snip}
The vice president called on the Central American countries to take a number of specific steps, including …. removing “public advertisements for human traffickers within your nations” — the last an apparent reference to travel agencies, transport companies and other firms that publicly offer to facilitate trips to the U.S.-Mexico border.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
If they were run by White Europeans, they would be tropical paradises, with Latinos fighting to go there.
Thanks Mike ... but please .... more action please ... Americans have been talked to about this issue nearly all my life and only President IKE protected the Citizens. This is not the time to protect the toilet, Mike
Right after Obama was re-elected, he made a tour of Central America and Mexico, essentially selling them on his new DACA policy, encouraging policies to stimulate the immigrant flow, and bribing them with foreign aid. 2013 is when the child immigration really took off, and when the percentages from Central America took off.
It was a deliberate program of the Obama Administration, and the Left (in Central America and Soros groups).
My guess is that the Trump Administration has looked at what the incentives of the Central American Governments are, what specifically they can do to reduce the flow, and now they are applying leverage to them to do it. It is an important element of shutting down the flow.
If they started taxing all the remittance money, at a very generous rate, that would curtail some of it. Then start using biometrics, especially on their way out, because they’re going to have to start carrying or mailing it home. When that happens, the post office folks, in Mexico, will take all of the money or gangs and cops will be robbing them the moment they cross the border.
And tell them that if they’re not a citizen and they come back they will be immediately deported. No detention. No hearing. Nothing.
Let their country leaders deal with a significant drop in their GDPs
One might say Obama did his white and black parts (sides) a screwgy??
If Pence was REALLY not mincing words, he would have told them to stop deliberately exporting their poorest, least productive, and most troublesome people to the welfare paradise that is the USA.
Reminds me of the discussions in the 1980s, when American officials told South American countries they had to address their drug problems. They pointed out AMERICAN drug problems were fueling the trade - and in this case, American freebies.
That’ll show em.
No doubt the Left will try to blame America first for the problem, but I don’t think the Trump Administration is there to discuss philosophy.
A big factor in Trump’s success has been a realistic assessment of where the incentives are, when dealing with people, and bringing the leverage that virtually guarantees the outcome. Since they have been able to turn around the big geopolitical issues of the day with China, Russia, North Korea, Iran and Mid East so effectively; I am confident that they will be able to squeeze (and incentivize) these three countries to perform.
Those countries should have incentive enough; their best & brightest are fleeing, and they’ll end up like Mexico - completely dependent on untaxed remittances from the US.
Cut off all “aid” to these countries and do it today.
Slap a 30% tax on all remittances. And I mean ALL remittances out of the US.
Revoke ALL visas for visitors from these countries immediately, including student visas. Order them out of the US within 7 days.
That will put a stop to this crap.
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See post 13.
There is no way to determine the status of people sending remittances. The only “fair” thing to do is tax them all at the same rate. 30% sounds about right to me.
For a start, anyway. If the countries in question don’t cooperate raise it to 50% across the board.
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I think it goes beyond that. The only playbook the left has used successfully is to gin up the poor (their "cannon fodder") to topple whatever power structure exists. It's a military buildup as sure as building tanks would be.
In the meantime, the politicians import voters, and corporations import customers who use government handouts to buy their products.
“Those countries should have incentive enough”
In terms of national interest, yes. Unfortunately, politicians (even more than most people) normally do what is in their interest, rather than than their national interest.
Those are the incentives that need to be managed to get the outcomes that you want. Trump seems to be very much aware of these pragmatic factors, and doesn’t move until he has the intel on the decision makers, and has lined up the leverage on them. Then he packages it to make it psychologically easy for them, with face saving pleasantries.
I believe that there will be some improvement in the immigration flow out of this effort, but a lot more will need to be done on individual incentives (like welfare, work, citizenship, and chances of deportation); as well as domestic law, policy and security - the Goodlatte bill, a wall and welfare crackdown.
“If they started taxing all the remittance money, at a very generous rate, that would curtail some of it.”
Well and fine for Mr. Pence to tell the Northern Triangle nations, Guate, Sal and Honduras (did he forget Mexico?) to “do more to stem illegal immigration” and I’m sure they all responded with “YEAH Boss”! But he failed to get their attention. To get their undivided attention on immigration and follow-on issues of State, cease remittances.
Remittances are a very real lifeblood for families and businesses not only Down South but worldwide. Countries have no legal “Plan-B”. In the US, remittances are big business for banks as well as neighborhood stores who rely on the service as a draw for shoppers. On any given payday weekend, remittances also serve as substantial short-term investment money in motion.
Businesses providing remittance services presumably operate in a legal manner. The regulatory framework governing their operation are absurd. Remittances are also big money. In 2017, worldwide remittances totaled approximately $444B. Of that total, $76B (17%) was funneled to Latin America. So what regions received the remaining 83%?!
Trends in Migration and Remittances 2017
http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/infographic/2017/04/21/trends-in-migration-and-remittances-2017
“Cut off all “aid” to these countries and do it today.”
Many people believe that aid money is just handed over to foreign governments. It isn’t. They get credit to buy American goods, like police cars, uniforms, technical equipment, helicopters, machine guns, etc. The money isn’t really intended to help foreign governments, though that might happen in many cases. It is intended as corporate welfare to American companies who have lucrative contracts supplying the “aid.” Those companies all have lobbyists and generous political budgets. That is why all that “aid” is given away.
“They get credit to buy American goods,“
Even better. That’ll get the corporate teat suckers howling to get their gravy spigots turned back on.
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That”s good, but I hope no one expects these countries to be our first line of defense, because they won’t be. If we aren’t serious about defending our own borders, no one else is going to care. They certainly defend their own. (I wish President Trump would just hammer Mexico that we’re going to adopt and enforce Mexico’s own immigration laws, the ones they use on their southern border).
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