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What Happened to Civility ?
The Daily Dose of Reason ^ | July 3, 2018 | Dr. Michael J Hurd

Posted on 07/03/2018 7:51:50 PM PDT by huckfillary

With all the division and dissension today, most will agree on one thing: Civility is breaking down in our society.

Maybe not so much in day-to-day life, for most of us. But certainly in the realm of business, academia, entertainment and especially government. It seems reasonable to ask: How long before this filters down into the rest of society, even more than it already has?

What’s the cause of civil breakdown? It depends whom you ask.

One person will say it’s social media. But that’s blaming the medium. It would be kind of like blaming the telephone for a fight during a phone conversation. It’s not the telephone – it’s the people! Social media is no different.

Another person will say it’s the breakdown of religion. But religion has been challenged for a long time, going back to the 1960s or before. Thomas Paine, one of America’s most influential founders, was an atheist. Thomas Jefferson was a deist, someone who believes in a God but also believes God’s role in human life is very limited or nonexistent. The current breakdown in civility is much more recent than the questioning of religion.

Another will say it’s all Donald Trump’s fault. But another will say it started because of Obama. But we have to look deeper. Whether it’s Obama or Trump causing the breakdown in civility, what makes people vulnerable to this manipulation and exploitation in the first place?

My answer: The decline of reason.

Think about what “reason” actually is.

When you’re reasonable, you refrain from certain things.

One is the use of force. The other is the threat of force.

On that point, the conservatives and Trump supporters have the high ground, like it or not. There is no Antifa of the right. There are no conservatives shouting down and threatening violence against speakers on campus who have differing views on taxes, environmentalism or Islam.

I’m not aware of any conservative proposals to launch a government takeover of the Internet, giving it the Orwellian name, “Net Neutrality”. Imagine the hue and cry if Republicans tried such a thing.

Generally, conservatives and right wingers want less government, not more. So for conservatives, by and large, it’s not about coercion. For leftists and “liberals”, it’s always about a new mandate, and political correctness is, in itself, the ultimate form of coercion.

It’s just a fact. Leftists like force more than conservatives, and force is the opposite of reason and civility.

Another thing a reasonable person refrains from is the use of personal attacks and emotion as a substitute for rational points.

While both sides can be guilty of this on social media and elsewhere, I hear a lot more of it from the left than the right.

While there are people who oppose Trump or conservatism while practicing reasonableness themselves, I honestly find that to be a rarer and rarer exception. I can’t blame this on Trump. These anti-Trumpers are free to challenge the President in reasonable ways. There are NO restrictions on free speech under his watch, to date. And criticizing the media for its slander and dishonesty is NOT a restriction on free speech.

I’m very vocal about my own views, on social media and elsewhere. When Obama was in office, and I opposed virtually everything he did and stood for, I did not personally attack or even “unfriend” people who thought differently, although many personally attacked me. I remained friends with most of them, although most of them will not speak to me since Trump’s election.

I almost constantly encounter people who support Trump or oppose Democrats that are scared – for their business or other personal reasons – to say so anywhere, even on social media. I have not yet once heard of anyone on the anti-Trump side facing any such fear. The difference is so startling and skewed, it seems reasonable to ask at some point, “What is it about leftism that’s so intimidating and emotional that causes non-leftists to go into the closet as they so often do?”

I know of many who would take issue with what I’m asserting. But I don’t know how you can deny my most fundamental point: Intimidation, emotion and the use of force are the opposite of reason.

If you feel a need to personally attack or coerce, whatever your views, then it’s a red flag you better start doing some introspection, for your own self most of all. If you’re right, then start acting like it. Point to the facts and logic that support your points. And if you can’t find any … well, maybe you’ve got to start rethinking one or two of your positions.

Why on earth is this so difficult for so many to accept?

Civility is based on reason. And only with a renewed and firm commitment to REASON will we ever get out of this mess.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civility; force; theleft
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To: allendale

Reminds me of Cyril Kornbluth’s SF classic “The Marching Morons.” He envisoned the world far in the future. He was an optimist. The year 9-B-936 arrived some years ago.


61 posted on 07/03/2018 11:02:38 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: huckfillary

Compulsory governmental indoctrination.


62 posted on 07/03/2018 11:11:08 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: huckfillary

Internet behavior spilling over into real life.

Plus libtards are by nature extremely violent children in bigger bodies.


63 posted on 07/03/2018 11:34:38 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: huckfillary
When you’re reasonable, you refrain from certain things.

One is the use of force. The other is the threat of force.

I don't think it's unreasonable to use force in self-defense.

64 posted on 07/03/2018 11:47:53 PM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Thanks huckfillary.

65 posted on 07/03/2018 11:50:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: huckfillary

Dr. Michael J Hurd is a Turd and he smells bad.....


66 posted on 07/04/2018 3:41:46 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: huckfillary

The animal has resurfaced - people getting their self-esteem from strutting around, trying to be the big shot, flaunting the bling.

It’s a false bravado. True strength comes from within.


67 posted on 07/04/2018 4:05:49 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: huckfillary

Social media makes it easier for people to ignore those around them. They choose to be uncivil. Ripping the iphones out of their hands won’t change anything.


68 posted on 07/04/2018 4:20:32 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism, like insanity, is the denial of reality.)
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To: bluejean; Telepathic Intruder
i...but you’re repeating yourself. Something Mark Twain said, can’t remember the exact quote at the moment./i

I believe it was something like:

"Suppose I was an idiot, and I was in Congress, but then, I repeat myself."

69 posted on 07/04/2018 5:56:23 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: huckfillary

In a war, you kill your enemy. After he surrenders and grovels, then you can be civil


70 posted on 07/04/2018 5:58:05 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... In August our cities will be burning))
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To: dfwgator

The hew and cry for “civility” only comes forth when the anti-commiescum side of the divide is starting to win ground in the Culture War.

What is meant by “civility”, in such times as this, is for the anti-commiescum side of the fight to sit down, shut up and let the commiescum win.


71 posted on 07/04/2018 10:27:08 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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