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Extensive article with maps of the shooting site. For WaPo, a relatively reasonable article on good guys taking down a bad guy. Admittedly, bias is not hard to find in language and article structure but, as I said, not bad for the WaPo.
1 posted on 07/14/2018 2:42:48 AM PDT by T-Bird45
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outstanding


2 posted on 07/14/2018 2:53:26 AM PDT by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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Extensive article, but did I miss this? What did the first guy go nuts over to start this mess?


3 posted on 07/14/2018 3:04:56 AM PDT by pepsionice
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...For WaPo, a relatively reasonable article

Well, kinda. Had they not said this:

In a matter of seconds, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors,...

Their attempt to show vigilantism.

4 posted on 07/14/2018 3:09:59 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Boycott The NFL! Molon Labe! Oathkeeper)
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In a matter of seconds, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors

When seconds count, the self-appointed protectors are there within seconds. The police, however....

6 posted on 07/14/2018 3:21:10 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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Those pushing gun control say it never happens.

Remember all the warnings about multiple defenders shooting each other, and the police getting in gun fights with them?

Here is a real world example, and none of the hypotheticals happened.

People who have made the decision to be unarmed, make up these hypotheticals as excuses to justify their decision.


8 posted on 07/14/2018 3:24:14 AM PDT by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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Texas tower shooting in the 60’s, I think the guy that shot the sniper was a ex - navy guy deputized on the spot by a local Police officer.


9 posted on 07/14/2018 3:26:30 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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BRAVO!!!

I like stories like this;)


13 posted on 07/14/2018 3:50:52 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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Both men did what they believed was right, but that meant they had killed a man they did not know.

"but"? What is that supposed to convey to me sitting in my chair? That I have to limit my self-defense to my little town's wife-beaters and angry drunks and whatever faces I've seen on "Crime Watch"?

17 posted on 07/14/2018 4:34:18 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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The FBI examined 160 shootings between 2000 and 2013 and found that most of the violence ended when the assailant stopped shooting, committed suicide or fled. Unarmed citizens successfully restrained shooters in 21 of those incidents, according to the FBI. Two attacks stopped when off-duty officers shot and killed the attackers. Five ended in much the way the attack at Louie’s did — when armed civilians, mostly security guards, exchanged fire with the shooters.

I'm seeing zero out of 160 shootings that were stopped by on-duty law enforcement shooting the guy. Maybe some of the suicides are the guy shooting himself when he sees ten guns pointed at him, but that's another matter.

18 posted on 07/14/2018 4:41:56 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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“In a matter of SECONDS, the two armed citizens became self-appointed protectors,...”

When SECONDS count, the police are only minutes away.


19 posted on 07/14/2018 4:45:18 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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I read a significant amount of bias from the author. The tone throughout is that armed civilians, especially those of lesser experience with firearms, create an environment of confusion and uncertainty in situations such as these, where responses by LEOs in similar circumstances are usually the opposite. Basically, the author deviously suggests this was a rare situation where the two heroes were well-trained, an uncommon situation, and also lucky with regard to how it all played out, and that more often than not it won’t end so well.


20 posted on 07/14/2018 4:53:09 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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Gotta love the ridiculously biased write up.

“The NRA has brandished the “good guy with a gun” argument after several recent mass shootings. Wayne LaPierre, the group’s chief executive, invoked the phrase after the 2012 massacre of 20 children and six adults at a Connecticut elementary school. He repeated it after the rampage in which 17 people were killed at a high school in Parkland, Fla., in February, even though an armed school resource officer was present and did not enter the school or engage the gunman during that attack.”

Ummmm how exactly does the fact that the Broward Coward refused to engage the shooter IN ANY WAY invalidate the truism that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun? Wayne LaPierre did not say having another gun present automatically neutralizes a bad guy with a gun. He said that’s the only way they can be stopped. The good guy with a gun sort of has to actually DO SOMETHING to stop the shooter - not cower behind a car out in the parking lot like the Broward Cops.


22 posted on 07/14/2018 5:04:13 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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bbb


23 posted on 07/14/2018 5:06:47 AM PDT by thinden
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““We don’t want people to be vigilantes,” Bo Mathews, a spokesman for the Oklahoma City Police Department, said in a recent interview. “That’s why we have police officers.””

Arrogant a$$hole! You weren’t there to stop the shooting.


24 posted on 07/14/2018 5:14:30 AM PDT by vette6387
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"...as the shooter bled out into the grass and died."

I love a good story with a happy ending.

25 posted on 07/14/2018 5:24:31 AM PDT by 60Gunner (The price of apathy towards public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. - Plato)
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Good thing there were 2 more shooters. Liberals like the Oklahoma governor don’t want people to be able to protect themselves. They prefer dead people.


30 posted on 07/14/2018 5:43:41 AM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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As the shooter Blood Out on the grass and died! I love a happy ending!


31 posted on 07/14/2018 5:51:16 AM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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As Nazario and Whittle converged over the man to restrain him, police the first responders arrived.
33 posted on 07/14/2018 7:05:40 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Jeff Sessions not a mouse or mr. magoo but a low life back stabbing bastard pretending to be AG)
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“as the shooter bled out into the grass and died.”

I love...sniff.. happy endings.


35 posted on 07/14/2018 7:19:47 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.- George Orwell)
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I love a happy ending.


42 posted on 07/14/2018 11:06:04 AM PDT by nuke_road_warrior (Making the world safe for nuclear power for over 20 years)
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