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DHS Massively Expands Enforcement Against Illegals’ Employers
Breitbart ^ | July 24, 2018 | by Neil Munro

Posted on 07/25/2018 6:22:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: firebrand

Correct, but I’m not saying we should hire temporary foreign workers for construction. Those jobs are reserved for citizens or people with legitimated green cards awaiting citizenship.

I think it comes down to the following: If you paid enough, would you get Americans to do the work? I do believe this true for construction work of all kinds. If your wages are too low to get Americans to do the work, but an increased reasonable wage would, you still can’t violate the law by hiring illegals. Follow the law! We’re all REQUIRED to.

I’m not so sure about farm work. Picking vegetables, fruit, etc. is just something most people won’t do.

Of course, everyone has their price, no?

But how much would have to pay AMERICAN farm hands to pick lettuce? If you did, food prices go up. Since these kinds of jobs are also seasonal, I don’t know if anyone looking for a career would want them. Construction and other work is always going on. A general contractor who doesn’t always have project currently going on is probably not going to make it anyway.

But a farm?

And even so, I’m not opposed to these jobs being citizen only, but I’m not sure we can find them. Yes, they used to do it. And there’s a lot to be said for hard work outdoors, fresh air, build strong bodies etc., but I think the Millennials and Generation (? current new one) are too lazy or not motivated enough.

Again, I could see giving temporary seasonal agricultural visas to Mexicans that the employer needs to guarantee to assist return to Mexico when done, or legally transfer contract to another farmer, say, further North whose crop is now ready for harvest.


61 posted on 07/26/2018 6:54:47 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (MAGAMarchOnWashington.com)
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To: Alas Babylon!

This is great — but I will truthfully say — I worry that we can’t find the Americans needed to do some of this work. Not all of it, but some of it. I think construction would go to some able bodied folks, but the hotel work, the restaurants, etc — it would be a challenge.

As a health care provider, I see it everyday — Americans as a lot are in pathetic shape. Young kids who have any type of brain are educated and gainfully employed, while the rest of them are fat assed, drugging and overdosing, or general no-goods, or liberal snowflakes.

I don’t know — not saying we can’t made this change ...but it will take time and a paradigm shift after all these years of relying on foreign workers. But it’s got to be done.


62 posted on 07/26/2018 7:14:47 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Tennessee Nana

“Arresting-employers-of-illegal-aliens PING”

I don’t know...

...getting rid of illegals is great, but, arresting citizens for hiring them?

It’s a bit too much.

It’s the gov’s job to keep illegals out, they’re not doing their job, not held accountable for it, and now blame business and hold THEM accountable.

There’s just something a little off there, but I’m glad the gov is doing SOMETHING.


63 posted on 07/26/2018 7:19:16 AM PDT by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

That’s why I said “also.” I was moving on to another sub-issue.

Another also: The restaurant industry in NYC would collapse if they enforce this all at once. They should probably build in a gradual process.

The food world is very trendy now, and if there were a ladder where you could move from dishwasher to busboy to waiter and on up, I think many young Americans would grab those jobs. They seem to be able to take a lot of suffering and abuse just to work in a restaurant and learn the ropes.


64 posted on 07/26/2018 7:22:01 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Robinson

This is good news. One thing I wonder about from a legal liability standpoint on the part of companies, is whether or not using “E-Verify” is considered a ‘safe harbor’ or not. If so, you might start seeing a lot more companies jumping on the E-verify bandwagon.


65 posted on 07/26/2018 8:36:03 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Best election, best POTUS, evah!”

Thank you Lord!


66 posted on 07/26/2018 8:50:17 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Investigate how Mexico has manipulated, meddled & interfered in our elections, since Ike was POTUS!)
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To: 9YearLurker
it is illegal for employers to challenge them—or discriminate based on them

Wasn't aware of that, but it being more goobermint fubar, I shoulda known .. thanks.

I've hired construction hands in the past when my business was still up/running, but never any wetbacks.
Always made a point of discriminating a priori.
So sue me  ;-)

67 posted on 07/26/2018 8:50:53 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: SaveFerris

68 posted on 07/26/2018 8:57:02 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Investigate how Mexico has manipulated, meddled & interfered in our elections, since Ike was POTUS!)
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To: JerseyDvl

This is really winning for our side!

“Amid President Donald Trump’s high-pressure economy, the enforcement actions push employers to fire illegals on their staff and to raise wages for Americans.”


69 posted on 07/26/2018 8:59:14 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Investigate how Mexico has manipulated, meddled & interfered in our elections, since Ike was POTUS!)
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To: JPJones

Its against the law to hire illegal aliens...

You break the law you get arrested...


70 posted on 07/26/2018 9:02:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“You break the law you get arrested...”

Or you get fined.


71 posted on 07/26/2018 9:16:59 AM PDT by JPJones (More tariffs, less income tax.)
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To: Jim Robinson

A tight labor market will lead to higher wages and greater productivity, which is why a tight labor market is a good thing.

However, if unlimited labor can be imported, the labor market will never get tight, and we will not get these benefits.


72 posted on 07/26/2018 9:30:23 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: Jim Robinson

WELL!! It’s about danged time!!! I’ve been fuming about this issue for a long time!!!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1788926/posts?q=1&;page=501


73 posted on 07/26/2018 9:31:47 AM PDT by NellieMae (Here......common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Jim Robinson

This was largely unreported. We are removing the magnet of employment for illegal aliens while millions sit on the duff sucking off the dole. I assure you that if we start putting employers in prison, this illegal alien migration will stop cold


74 posted on 07/26/2018 9:41:59 AM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.ith the solar)
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To: Jim Robinson

They should place some of that focus on eastern Washington farms.


75 posted on 07/26/2018 9:46:39 AM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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To: Grampa Dave; Chode; Fiddlstix

Sweet! It’s a Fiddlstix!


76 posted on 07/26/2018 11:00:38 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow, they are actually arresting managers? I would have been fine with just fining these companies $100,000 for breaking the law.

Surprised that self righteous RINOS like Rubio and clan haven’t been screaming at the top of their lungs, that their fellow Chamber members are getting arrested.


77 posted on 07/26/2018 11:01:46 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: Pollster1

I agree. These employers are traitors.


78 posted on 07/26/2018 11:02:49 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: tomkat

Wow—I wasn’t referring to your specific teaching in the least.

But if you want to be snotty about it, how hard is it to explain a larger surface area for more absorption?


79 posted on 07/26/2018 11:32:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Well, your #79 was either meant for someone else OR I'm completely in the dark re what you're on about   :-\
80 posted on 07/26/2018 12:10:01 PM PDT by tomkat
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