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A Man of God Sins Against My Father
Townhall ^ | 07/28/2018 | Michael Reagan

Posted on 07/29/2018 12:38:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

If a liberal like Jesse Jackson went on CNN and accused my father of being a "known womanizer" like President Trump, conservatives across America would go off the rails.

They'd defend the reputation of Ronald Reagan to the max and blast Jackson for his false and evil equivalency.

They'd point out that it is totally outrageous to compare the personal lives of President Trump and my father.

Yet look what happened last week when a prominent conservative evangelical pastor from Dallas went on Fox News and called my father a "known womanizer."

The Rev. Robert Jeffress, who's a Fox contributor, was asked by Ed Henry to respond to another minister who had accused Republican lawmakers of selling their good Christian souls by supporting a serial bed-hopper like Trump.

"You know," Jeffress responded, "this is not an unusual thing - we've been here before. Back in 1980, evangelicals chose to support a twice-married Hollywood actor who was a known womanizer in Hollywood. His name was Ronald Reagan. ...

"The reason we supported President Reagan was not because we were supporting womanizing or divorce. We supported his policies."

When I heard Jeffress say that I blew my top and started angrily tweeting.

The first tweet I fired off to the Southern Baptist minister was pretty blunt - "All I can say is go F yourself."

My second tweet was "Dr. Jeffress. How dare you compare my father to Trump."

Apparently, I was the only conservative Reagan Republican in North America who actually cared that Pastor Jeffress was casually throwing my father under the bus to support his beloved sinner-in-chief.

All I heard from my fellow conservatives in the twittersphere was crickets -and a week later I still do.

What that holy man from Dallas said was absolutely outrageous.

He equated my father - who was divorced from my mother Jane Wyman when he was dating in Hollywood and not yet married to Nancy - to Donald Trump, who was dating Playboy playmates and who knows who else when he was married.

What was more outrageous, however, was that no conservative Republicans or Fox commentators rose up in defense of my father and his reputation.

As I also pointed out in a tweet last week, all those conservative talk show hosts and politicians who keep saying how much they love Ronald Reagan are either lying or have lost their spines and a pair of other things.

I don't believe those so-called "Reagan conservatives" anymore.

If they wouldn't stand up and defend my father against a vile and uninformed statement from someone like Jeffress', there's no reason to assume they love my father at all.

I don't care what the president of the United States does in his personal life. I care what he does as president of the United States.

If you want to defend Trump, fine.

But for God's sake, why would you use my father to make excuses for a president who has cheated on every woman he's been married to?

To rephrase that famous old line, Rev. Jeffress, "I knew Ronald Reagan. Ronald Reagan was a friend of mine. And Donald Trump ain't no Ronald Reagan - and vice versa."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: robertjeffress; ronaldreagan; trumphefights; womanizing
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To: DoughtyOne

I never heard it either.


41 posted on 07/29/2018 2:15:37 PM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: SeekAndFind
..Robert Jeffress shoots from the hip. Perhaps that explains his early and continuing support for DJT.

I cannot see any constructive value in his comments about Ronald Reagan. Michael is right in his reaction. But he is also using this to display his anti-Trump feelings.

42 posted on 07/29/2018 2:22:33 PM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Freedom56v2
Huh??? What is a “genetic aversion” to all preachers???

Every one of 'em are guessing, just like everyone else, yet most of 'em would have you believe that they have it all figured out.
It's all wishful thinking, but don't forget to pass that plate anyway.

God, please save us from those who aim to save us.

43 posted on 07/29/2018 2:34:05 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: fireman15

I wonder how many of today’s American patriots would have “liked” Thomas Jefferson or George Washington...? And what’s more: WHO CARES?!?


44 posted on 07/29/2018 2:34:18 PM PDT by Dr. Pritchett
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To: fireman15

President Trump is the only recent President who could hold a candle to President Reagan. Comparing the two is not a bad thing... and I doubt that Pastor Jeffress meant any disrespect. The two were men from different times. At the time President Reagan got a divorce it was considered at least as shameful as what people consider men who have had affairs these days.


Really surprised at all the folks here supporting ardent #NEVERTRUMPER Michael Reagan....He made it very clear he would not vote for Trump...Prior to the election he even did a CNN segment on why his father would not have voted for Trump...he is as bad as George Will:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/11/politics/michael-reagan-donald-trump/

I agree with you that times have changed. I don’t think Jeffress meant any disrespect. When Reagan ran I remember commentary from the evangelical right regarding his divorce—in some faiths, it was considered very taboo...Maybe still is in some.

I like this first comment from the linked article:

https://tennesseestar.com/2018/06/23/judd-matheny-gets-endorsement-of-michael-reagan-for-congressional-bid-in-tennessees-6th/

Michael Reagan is a never Trumper who cashes in on his father’s name by being a “conservative” but in reality his politics are much closer to his siblings. He is probably about as conservative as Corker, Alexander, Haslam and Boyd. Which is to say he is a ruling class, status quo, cheap labor Republican. The fact that Matheny accepts an endorsement from a rabid anti-Trumper should be a red flag
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45 posted on 07/29/2018 2:42:30 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: tomkat

Sorry you feel that way about all who have chosen or been chosen to the ministry.

You do realize you are painting with a rather broad brush (stereotyping)—just like left does...

You know...All Trump voters are this, all Trump voters are that...All preachers are this, all preachers are that...

Just sayin...


46 posted on 07/29/2018 2:46:07 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: SeekAndFind
  1. Ronald Reagan was a man. He was not (not known as, at least) a womanizer. He cannot now defend himself from the charge, and to lay it today strikes me as a canard. A pastor peddling such should be ashamed. FULL STOP.

  2. Donald Trump ran the table in the primaries and defeated an odds-on favorite, the abominable Hillary Clinton, in the general election. Hillary would have continued the Obama policy of persecuting Christians, and would have turned the courts - including SCOTUS - against Christians and Christianity. Donald Trump has, and intends to, prevent that.

  3. Donald Trump’s history pretty much precludes his consideration by any legitimate Christian church for any position of leadership it its affairs. We know that, and we knew that before the election. If given a choice of Ronald Reagan or Donald Trump as Head of State, it would be Ronald Reagan hands down. Donald Trump, profiting from Reagan’s example (and, it has to be said, from some of Reagan’s mistakes) is excelling as Head of Government.

The conclusion of the matter is that Ronald Reagan is not an issue now, any more than Franklin Roosevelt or any earlier POTUS. Donald Trump is. And we can’t spare the man; he fights.


47 posted on 07/29/2018 2:49:32 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Trump is putting it all on the line against Turkey to save a Christian pastor.

END OF STORY


48 posted on 07/29/2018 3:05:42 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21)
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To: Freedom56v2
Re: broad brush

Tho far from perfect, I've learned to live with it, thanks.

49 posted on 07/29/2018 3:06:46 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Freedom56v2
When Reagan ran I remember commentary from the evangelical right regarding his divorce—in some faiths, it was considered very taboo...Maybe still is in some.

Some things change but God’s Word never changes…… Matthew 19:9. Great presidents and common folk alike, we all have to stand in front of God and give an account of ourselves.

50 posted on 07/29/2018 3:16:07 PM PDT by hecticskeptic
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Very well said! YES, HE FIGHTS!

I thank God DJT is POTUS!
And I pray very day for his safety!


51 posted on 07/29/2018 4:22:25 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whatever, you whiny lil....

You need a tissue and a hug?


52 posted on 07/29/2018 4:26:44 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZGw2M)
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To: SeekAndFind
Apparently, I was the only conservative Reagan Republican in North America who actually cared that Pastor Jeffress was casually throwing my father under the bus to support his beloved sinner-in-chief.

Look, Mikey - if you don't get by now that the Lefties are trying to run the country with 5 Lefties on the Supreme Court being fed Lefty wish lists by the 500-odd Lefty Article III Federal judge-presidents, you need to sit down and shut up.

NOW, political naif.

We'll change your soggy diapers AFTER President Trump and the Deplorables curb-stomp the Lefties.

53 posted on 07/29/2018 4:48:32 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: House Atreides

The Cheese-Eating Surrender Mikey weighs in...


54 posted on 07/29/2018 4:51:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: Freedom56v2
Any NeverTrumper wants to see the Supreme Court and the Federal courts in the hands of the Left.

As we have seen with all these little Federal judge-presidents ruling from the replica Oval Offices in their judge's chambers - the object is for a handful of judges to run the country.


55 posted on 07/29/2018 4:55:38 PM PDT by kiryandil (Never pick a fight with an angry beehive)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get over yourself, you NeverTrumper moron. (Not you, SeekAndFind)

Little Michael never misses an opportunity to bash Trump. I’m shocked at the number of freepers who are applauding Reagan’s Trump bashing tantrum.

Take a couple of Xanax and go to sleep, Mikey.


56 posted on 07/29/2018 8:21:41 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Free Tommy Robinson!)
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To: Freedom56v2

Great post.


57 posted on 07/29/2018 8:25:13 PM PDT by CrimsonTidegirl (Free Tommy Robinson!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It was extraordinary at the time (1976-80!) even to CONSIDER electing a divorcee who, it certainly appeared, had been conducting an extra-marital affair with Nancy while still married to Jane. Much less that he was supported by evangelicals. So, yes, he could have been considered if not a womanizer, certainly an adulterer. And we all loved him. So what?


58 posted on 07/29/2018 8:29:30 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: Emmett McCarthy
Thanks Emmett McCarthy
59 posted on 07/29/2018 10:24:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (01/26/18 DJIA 30 stocks $26,616.71 48.794% > open 11/07/16 215.71 from 50% increase 1.2183 yrs)
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To: SeekAndFind

Until now, Michael has been the sane one....getting bent because some heathen in religious robes makes a statement about his Dad is going off the rails.


60 posted on 07/30/2018 3:30:59 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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