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NRA Statement on 3-D Printers and Plastic Firearms
nraila.org ^ | July 31, 2018

Posted on 07/31/2018 4:31:35 PM PDT by PROCON

FAIRFAX, Va.— Chris W. Cox, executive director, National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, released the following statement on Tuesday:

“Many anti-gun politicians and members of the media have wrongly claimed that 3-D printing technology will allow for the production and widespread proliferation of undetectable plastic firearms. Regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the Internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. Federal law passed in 1988, crafted with the NRA’s support, makes it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive an undetectable firearm.”


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KEYWORDS: 3d; banglist; nra; plasticguns
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1 posted on 07/31/2018 4:31:35 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 07/31/2018 4:32:06 PM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: PROCON

A plastic gun with no metal parts is a plastic pipe bomb shaped like a gun.


3 posted on 07/31/2018 4:35:37 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600><p>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: PROCON

Except that many of the gun plans call for 3D METAL milling machines.


4 posted on 07/31/2018 4:36:29 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: PROCON

I disagree with the NRA here.

If you can make them it should be fine no matter how detectable they might be.

I do wonder just how useful a plastic gun would be. Some parts need to be made of steel.


5 posted on 07/31/2018 4:37:46 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There is now titanium 3d printing technology.
A firearm that won’t rust and never wear out?


6 posted on 07/31/2018 4:38:30 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning)
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To: PROCON

There is no firearm that is 100% plastic.

Springs, firing pins. Barrels. Casings. Plenty of metal to detect. Reinforcement metal on stress point areas.


7 posted on 07/31/2018 4:39:14 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rbg81; Secret Agent Man

The statement was released because the media has been reporting that they’re ALL plastic.


8 posted on 07/31/2018 4:41:37 PM PDT by PROCON ('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
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To: rbg81
Except that many of the gun plans call for 3D METAL milling machines.

You are absolutely correct! I can now purchase a milling machine and produce an AR15 for under a 1/2 million each. Wow, what a deal. I guess I would have to paint it black for it to be scary though.

9 posted on 07/31/2018 4:43:10 PM PDT by River_Wrangler (Nothing difficult is ever easy!)
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To: PROCON
Hand guns undetectable by X-ray are a myth.

Bananas are detectable by x-ray.

Any plastic capable of firing more than one round without exploding would be easily detected by X-ray.

The modern color X-ray used in airports are not going to be fooled by a plastic gun.

If one was missed it would be the fault of the human being and not the machine or the plastic gun being undetectable.

10 posted on 07/31/2018 4:44:53 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: yarddog
.......I do wonder just how useful a plastic gun would be. Some parts need to be made of steel.

The barrel would almost certainly have to be metal. It might be possible to make a barrel out of some exotic ceramic material since we have knives now with ceramic blades but a barrel has to also withstand quite a bit of pressure.

11 posted on 07/31/2018 4:47:06 PM PDT by Jed Eckert
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You don’t need to make the gun all plastic. Just the part which is the “firearm”, per BATF definition.

Take the Glock, for example. The plastic frame is the piece with the serial number. I can buy a replacement barrel over the counter. I can buy the trigger assembly over the counter. So if I create a Glock frame, I can buy everything else that’s needed to make it a working gun for cash without paperwork.

Same thing for many other handguns and rifles. For an AR15, you just have to make the lower. The upper, with the barrel, you can buy for cash.


12 posted on 07/31/2018 4:47:14 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PROCON
As far as I can see, the real issue is not one of detection. The real issue is that anyone can now manufacture a gun for their own use. No registration, no background check. You want a gun? Make yourself a gun.

Second Amendment is in force and the right to keep and bear arms is a heck of a lot harder to infringe. Heads are exploding.

13 posted on 07/31/2018 4:52:10 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: yarddog
I disagree with the NRA here.

Then why didn't you complain back in 1988?????

14 posted on 07/31/2018 4:54:27 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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To: Pontiac

Airport X-ray machines can detect guns. Can we be sure that the TSA guy would be able to recognise a PART of a disassembled gun as being a gun?


15 posted on 07/31/2018 4:54:47 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: PROCON

If I can make my own axe or hammer, I should be able to make my own gun, no matter what materials are used.


16 posted on 07/31/2018 4:54:55 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Break in my country, you are illegal. Break into my house, makes not you a homeowner.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

“You don’t need to make the gun all plastic. Just the part which is the “firearm”, per BATF definition.”

It doesn’t have to be plastic at all. We’ve been bending flats for AKs for years. Since those start life as a sheet of metal, it has no serial number.


17 posted on 07/31/2018 4:55:44 PM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

How do you know I didn’t?


18 posted on 07/31/2018 4:55:51 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: SauronOfMordor

Some chewed pop tarts for guides.


19 posted on 07/31/2018 4:56:41 PM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Considering the quality of government training and government employees, you may have a point


20 posted on 07/31/2018 4:57:09 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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