Opinion: How a senior DOJ official helped Dem researchers on Trump-Russia case

The Hill ^ | 8/7/2018 | john Solomon

[bitt]

evidence yet that a research firm, hired by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) to find dirt on and defeat Donald Trump, worked early and often with the FBI, a Department of Justice (DOJ) official and the intelligence community during the 2016 presidential election and the early days of Trump's presidency.

Fusion GPS's work and its involvement with several FBI officials have been well reported.

But a close review of these new documents shows just how closely Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, who reported to Obama-era Deputy AG Sally Yates, maintained contact with Fusion — and, in particular, its primary source, former British spy Christopher Steele — before, during and after the election.

Yates was fired by President Trump over an unrelated political dispute. Ohr was demoted recently.

Ohr’s own notes, emails and text messages show he communicated extensively with Steele and with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson. Those documents have been turned over in recent weeks to investigative bodies in Congress and the DOJ, but not reviewed outside the investigative ranks until now.

[Red Badger]

BTTT!.............

[jpsb]

Jeff Sessions is trying to kill any attempt at exposing corruption at the DOJ/FBI/CIA.

[jpsb]

The picture is getting pretty clear now. Ohr was the one piece I was missing. I knew he was involved but now he appears to be The Man putting everything together.

Rumor has it Trump is going to declassify important docs. I hope that rumor is true.

I too hope this thread is not invaded by QCult too.

[nopardons]

Your supposed "manners" aren't; they're an outdated affectation, that were brought over from serf/peasant days in England,to some of the colonies, and way past their "sell by" date! In upper middle and upper class households, outside of the South, it was only servants who called their employers and the employers children, "Master" ( what one uses instead of "Mr." for boys, until they enter their teens ), Miss, Mr. first name; though that more or less died out by the 1970s.

Unlike you, my manners are impeccable and I don't have to keep making childish excuses and blubbering on and on and on, OFF TOPIC, as you do.

The vast majority of the earliest posters, here, never did do anything re their home pages; not even the flag thing. And to bring it up is UNMANNERLY, as well as childish.

[nopardons]

Ohr and his wife have been on the list of who did what, for a very long time, but he has now been singled out for more scrutiny.

Yes, the "news" has been out there, re Trump declassifying the unnecessarily redacted pages for a few months now. I too hope that he does it and soon!

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Nellie Ohr got a ham radio license for the same reason Hillary got a bootleg mail server.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/02/fusion-gpss-anti-trump-researcher-avoid-surveillance-ham-radio-license/

[Jamestown1630]

I don’t know about the deep South today, but many of the Black people that I know and work with address me and others this way, ‘Miss (First Name)’. I do hear it more in reference to females than to males.

It threw me when I first encountered it but I’m used to it now and often use it myself.

[nopardons]

I think this very old hold-over depends a LOT on race,age, and exactly where in the South one is AND it is something said "face to face" and NOT written; especially NOT when talking about someone who isn't present.

As I stated earlier, it is a subservient thing, akin to touching the brim of a cap/tugging at a forelock of hair ( which is for males ONLY to do and a long dead thing of the past in the UK )when seeing one's "betters" ( always re a tenant farmer on an aristo's palatial estate/"pile" as they say in the UK) pass by.

It has less to do with "manners" than it has to do with "knowing one's place"! And descends, vis-a-vis blacks, from slaves saying:"MASSA JOHN" etc.!

And then there are the various different ways/terms that the natives of parts of the old BRITISH EMPIRE used to use when talking to or about their employers/people of distinction: sahib, in India; which is the most well known one, for example. And that was still a subservient term!

Absolutely NONE of these things have ever had to do with "manners"; a term, which sadly, few understand or actually use anymore!Manners and politeness are something quite different.

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

Orange jump suits are ok, but they must be destined for Gitmo!

[GGpaX4DumpedTea]

Both.

[Jamestown1630]

Well, the notion I had that it represented a subservient way of addressing someone IS what threw me - I’m white and they are black, and it seemed like a ‘throwback’ and made me uncomfortable.

But as time went on, I realized that however it may have begun, it is now a simple form of respect, and largely for age - as I said, I encounter it most as a way of addressing females, but especially older ones; and they use it without regard to color. It seems to be a form of respect when the relationship is too fond/familiar for formality, but one still wants to show respect.

I come from a Southern family - Virginia, with extensions in South Carolina; but I’ve spent my whole life in the DC area. The closest other form to this that I’ve encountered is when children are taught to refer to someone very close as Aunt or Uncle, when no such blood relationship exists but the person is older and respect for age is required from the kiddos.

[nopardons]

The "AUNT"/"UNCLE" thing was done up north too and was used, there, when I was growing up, for close family friends, whom the child/children, in some instances, knew better than their own blood Aunts & Uncles. We also addressed adult cousins ( second, third, whatever ) as "COUSIN SO & SO"; which I still used as an adult.

The "AUNT"/"UNCLE" thing is still used, for adult family friends in South Africa, amongst the Boers. I don't know if it is commonly used by blacks there.

My progeny called GODparents "Aunt/s and Uncle/s", though there was no blood relationship.

Now, if you want to go back a couple of centuries, Southern whites called some black slaves Aunt or Uncle...a la UNCLE REMUS, who was based on a REAL person and his stories.

[Jamestown1630]

When I was growing up, we called siblings ‘Brother’ and ‘Sister’ as often as by their first names. We were raised by old people with old habits, but I still call my brother ‘Brother’ sometimes. I have lots of old letters that are addressed ‘Dear Brother’ or ‘Dear Sister’, instead of names.

Old stuff dies hard ;-)

[philman_36]

Unlike you, my manners are impeccable...

Calling others unflattering names is impeccable manners? We must have different understandings of what good manners are.

...OFF TOPIC...
But...but...your OFF TOPIC reply was what made me reply in the first place.

Being observant is bad manners and childish. WOW! You're so confusing.
You should chill out and stress less.

[philman_36]

How far can you lead a donkey without a rope?

[nopardons]

Yes, sometimes "old stuff" dies VERY hard!

OTOH...throwing everything "old" out, replacing it with really stupid/meaningless stuff, or just NOT having any rules at all, debases society, tears the woof and weave of commonality of a nation apart, and NEVER achieves something "better"! But all of this is very far afield re the topic of this thread and best done privately or on a suitable thread. :-)

[philman_36]

You imagine that you're "something special", don't you?

[nopardons]

Besides being a silly attentionwhore, you can't spell, can't manage a successful counter, and doesn't make you look "better".

"...observant....? HUNH? Obviously you have a difficult time writing simple English prose, besides your other problems.

LOL...worry about yourself; you're the obsessive/compulsive, passive/aggressive, upset and distressed one, not I!

[Jamestown1630]

I have to agree one hundred per cent ;-)

[philman_36]

Oh, I see. Your “outdated affectation” is fine but mine is verboten. Got it.