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Farce as Tragedy
NRO ^ | 9 Aug 2018 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/11/2018 2:03:02 PM PDT by Rummyfan

How a 1980s sci-fi flick became an inspiration for Marxist tracts

"I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass. And I’m all out of bubblegum.”

It’s one of my favorite movie lines of all time, but there are other reasons I love John Carpenter’s sci-fi action movie They Live, which celebrates its 30th anniversary later this year. Starring the 1980s professional wrestler “Rowdy” Roddy Piper, it is one of the best B-movies of the era. Kurt Russell was supposed to play the lead role, but Carpenter felt that after directing so many Russell vehicles, he should go with someone else. When Carpenter, a wrestling fan, saw Piper’s bravura performance in Wrestlemania III, he had found his man.

I have watched They Live many times since it first came out. But it was only a few years ago that I learned it’s also a timeless piece of Marxist propaganda.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


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KEYWORDS: antireaganomics; johncarpenter; jonahgoldberg; marxism; roddypiper; rowdyroddypiper; theylive
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Without a doubt, it was Roddy Piper's greatest role.


1 posted on 08/11/2018 2:03:02 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

It was a very good movie, pushing Marxism? Not one bit. It showed what happens when totalitarians take control, as in Communists. It was anti-marxist if anything.


2 posted on 08/11/2018 2:09:11 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: Rummyfan

How is it Marxist propaganda...I’d of thought the opposite...perhaps because it is companies which exert control vs government...but we have learned fascism and Marxism utilizes both to partner and exert control.


3 posted on 08/11/2018 2:12:46 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (17...#1776)
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To: Glad2bnuts

Jonah is always wrong about everything.


4 posted on 08/11/2018 2:12:48 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The MSM is in the business of creating a fake version of reality for political reasons.)
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To: Rummyfan; nopardons

I really loathe it when non-professionals start pontificating about movies. I remember my fury when non-professional, nepotism-recipient John Podhoretz was appointed film critic of The New York Post. What a blow to great film criticism! I grew up with James Agee, Pauline Kael, Andrew Sarris, Mollie Haskell, John Simon - and even the likes of David Denby and James Wolcott - who were intellectual GIANTS compared to these midgets. Now we have the disheveled, Trump-hating, eye-blinking guest of the All Star Panel of Bret Baier’s awful show holding forth. Politically ambitious people have NO place in commenting publicly on the arts.

The only occasional film critic I respect today is Camille Paglia. I don’t always agree with her opinions but she understands films, actors, and film history.


5 posted on 08/11/2018 2:13:39 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: ClearCase_guy
Jonah is always wrong about everything.

LOL !
Maybe he gets it from his mom ; -)

6 posted on 08/11/2018 2:15:08 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Rummyfan

“It’s one of my favorite movie lines of all time...”

Moron.


7 posted on 08/11/2018 2:16:01 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Rummyfan

It’s the opposite of Marxist propaganda. The writer sounds delusional like the rest of the never trumpers at NRO


8 posted on 08/11/2018 2:18:42 PM PDT by Nicojones
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To: Rummyfan
How he winds this up into a talk about anti-Semitism is rather strange, but the line I think we all need to remember is this:

“The real threat to freedom isn’t merely power, but unchecked power yoked to the state.”

He’s a nutty NeverTrumper, but I agree with that statement.

9 posted on 08/11/2018 2:21:58 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He wrote an awful lot in that article just to take potshots at the Alt-right.


10 posted on 08/11/2018 2:23:38 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Rummyfan
Based on 1963 science-fiction short story “Eight O’Clock in the Morning” by Ray Faraday Nelson. I heard that "Total Recall" was based on the same story.

Both "They Live" and "Total Recall" are typical liberal Hollywood media fare; standard "evil corporation" stuff. However, I can ignore that and enjoy both these movies just for the science fiction.
11 posted on 08/11/2018 2:26:29 PM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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“Jonah is always wrong about everything.”

Pretty much. He’s def a channel-changer for me.

Plus, he can’t write worth beans.


12 posted on 08/11/2018 2:30:38 PM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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To: miss marmelstein
Personally, I kinda like Podhoretz' movie reviews. They are about the only thing I ever read on The Weekly Standard website.
13 posted on 08/11/2018 2:33:22 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Glad2bnuts

The protagonists in They Live represent anyone who feels disenfranchised and repressed. Goldberg indicates that Carpenter’s aim was to make the consumerist Yuppies of the Reagan era the villain. The character of Nada, played by Piper is an example of a hero in a strange land- one that rejects his simple masculinity and lack of consumer power. Piper’s character can be read as generic to anybody out there who feels they are alienated and up against what they perceive as tyrannical and deadly.


14 posted on 08/11/2018 2:34:24 PM PDT by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: miss marmelstein
We have the same experience and yes, taste...your post is 100% SPOT ON!

And Jonah is a POS GOPEer, who hasn't been right about anything at all in over a decade!

OTOH...the N.Y. Post's film and theatre critics stink on ice and are mentally defective; every last one of them!

Paglia on cultural/the ARTS stuff is usually BRILLIANT, though on a few rare times, she goes a bit off the rails. But hey...nobody's perfect! At least she is very thoughtful and does actually know what she's talking about!

15 posted on 08/11/2018 2:39:16 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Rummyfan

It’s anti-commercialism and blind obedience. Not really Marxist. Certainly not fond of capitalism, but there’s a big gap between that and Marxism.


16 posted on 08/11/2018 2:41:51 PM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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“...a brilliant piece of Marxist propaganda...”

Funny, I recall seeing it condemned as fascist propaganda.


17 posted on 08/11/2018 3:10:26 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: Rummyfan

They Live;

is a really stupid movie.


18 posted on 08/11/2018 3:12:22 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Rummyfan

The plot depended on the aliens being ugly and so hateful that humans reacted murderously to seeing them as they really were. But what if they had been cute and cuddly, if just as sneaky and controlling?


19 posted on 08/11/2018 3:18:35 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: Rummyfan

“Chumscrubber”

The movie

Watch it.


20 posted on 08/11/2018 3:19:43 PM PDT by Zeneta
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