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Zinke takes forestry fight to fire-ravaged California
The Hill ^ | 08/12/18 | Miranda Green

Posted on 08/12/2018 5:13:27 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

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'Progressive' liberal Democrat environmentalists would rather these fires burn and spread releasing millions of tons of carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, ash, and particulates into the air increasing the rate of 'man-made global warming' than allow managed care of forests to responsibly harvest of timber for home construction and a myriad of other uses.
1 posted on 08/12/2018 5:13:27 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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Other National Forests should review the practices of the Black Hills NF wrt logging.


2 posted on 08/12/2018 5:16:22 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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I understand that the two large fires in WA State last year contributed roughly 40% of the total carbon out put of the State last year.


3 posted on 08/12/2018 5:17:51 PM PDT by Parmy
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4 posted on 08/12/2018 5:20:04 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Parmy

Check out the Coal Seam fires in China wrt annual CO2 output.


5 posted on 08/12/2018 5:20:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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Zinke also said “radical environmentalists” would “rather see forests and communities burn than see a logger in the woods.”


THAT'S CA!
6 posted on 08/12/2018 5:20:43 PM PDT by onyx (JOIN 300 CLUB BY DONATING $34 MONTHLY! TRUMP'S WAY IS THE WIINNING WAYT)
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Just marinate on the thought of how many forest creatures are destroyed in a fast moving 700,000 acre wildfire. Kinda puts about half their argument to bed.


7 posted on 08/12/2018 5:22:39 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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This would be an interesting debate to have with the enviro extremists. These fires are adding so much in pollution and greenhouse gases to the atmosphere, yet they oppose efforts to manage forests to make these firestorms less likely to explode as they have this year.

Bring it on. Let’s have the debate.


8 posted on 08/12/2018 5:30:33 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Yes, it’s ridiculous. I go hiking a fair amount, and the amount of dead trees just lying around the forests all over California is absurd. Then when that stuff goes up in flames, it’s just a massive powder keg. Please thin these forests out!


9 posted on 08/12/2018 5:30:52 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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No one will ask them to pay for their carbon release on that account... tsk tsk... only corporate and individual business is taxed, not the state burning forests, silly us


10 posted on 08/12/2018 5:34:25 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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Many of the fires in California are not forest fires; they are mainly scrub brush (chapparel) wildfires and cannot be prevented by improved logging practices.

The Ferguson fire near and in Yosemite is a forest fire. The forests of the Sierra can be better managed. Many of the Sierra forests have been hard hit by bark beetles and there are many dead standing trees, especially around Sequoia and Kings Canyon National Parks.

Wiki: Chaparral is a shrubland or heathland plant community found primarily in the US state of California and in the northern portion of the Baja California Peninsula, Mexico. It is shaped by a Mediterranean climate (mild, wet winters and hot dry summers) and wildfire, featuring summer-drought-tolerant plants with hard sclerophyllous evergreen leaves, as contrasted with the associated soft-leaved, drought-deciduous, scrub community of coastal sage scrub, found below the chaparral biome. Chaparral covers 5% of the state of California, and associated Mediterranean shrubland an additional 3.5%. The name comes from the Spanish word for evergreen oak shrubland.


11 posted on 08/12/2018 5:37:58 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Environmentalists, however, say forest management is just a euphemism for logging, something they’ve been fighting against for years.

How many square miles of forest and how many houses have to be lost before the environmentalists can connect the dots between forest management and fewer uncontrolled forest fires?

By not clearing brush, thinning trees, and not building fire roads with a plan to quickly contain a forest fire, results in the unnecessary losses in life, in homes, wild animals, pets, and trees.

Of course Democrats NEVER see or acknowledge the flaws in their destructive policies. California has lost 500 square miles of woodland to the ravaging forest fires because of their insane environmentalism.

Just what remedies do the environmentalists have in mind? Nothing. Just let the fire burn itself out like it did 300 years ago.

12 posted on 08/12/2018 5:41:26 PM PDT by olezip
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Randi Spivak, Public Lands Program Director at the Center for Biological Diversity — “For lots of members of Congress, they have timber and mills in their district, so it’s really self serving.”

So serving your constituents is “self serving.” It would seem that Spivak wants every Congresscritter to be beholden to the environmentalists, not to their crumb-seeking, deplorable, bible thumping, gun toting constituents.


13 posted on 08/12/2018 5:42:59 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Actually most of the brush burning in these fires is Chamise.

It is a severe danger to fire fighters because their turnout gear gets tangled in it, making travel through it a slow process.

And it is oily and burns hot.


14 posted on 08/12/2018 5:44:27 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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The purpose of these fires is to drive settlers out.

Those are the dots they connected 40 years ago when the Agenda 21 burn-out maps were prepared.
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15 posted on 08/12/2018 5:47:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Environmentalists are foul!
16 posted on 08/12/2018 5:49:25 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Oh, “greasewood”.

How does that stuff not burn hot?


17 posted on 08/12/2018 5:51:06 PM PDT by Paladin2 (no spelchek, no problem...)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

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What we really need to do is force congress to completely end “Motorized Travel Restrictions” in all wild land immediately.
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18 posted on 08/12/2018 5:52:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Thanks.

One of my favorite trails on the San Fran Peninsula is the Chamise Trail connecting Rancho San Antonio to Hidden Villa.

Here is a list of the common plants in Chamise Chapparel and Sage Scrub.

Most of the California chapparel and scrub is very resinous, ignites quickly and burns hot. The Wiki article points out that it is natural for these biomes to burn every 10 to 100 years.

19 posted on 08/12/2018 5:53:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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No, not “greasewood.”

That is mostly found in coastal hills.

It also burns hot, but is easy to work through.


20 posted on 08/12/2018 5:54:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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