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Do too many sex partners contribute to high suicide rates in the LGBTQ community?
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 21th August 2018 | Taylor Stevens

Posted on 08/21/2018 5:39:09 PM PDT by Ennis85

In a sweeping, one-hour meeting with The Salt Lake Tribune's editorial board on Monday, the Salt Lake County Republican Party's new communication director made claims about the LGBTQ community that the county health department described as "wildly inaccurate" and Equality Utah said are " deeply irresponsible. "

Dave Robinson joined county GOP Chairman Scott Miller, who has been on the job for a little more than a month, for a conversation about where they see the party headed on issues ranging from water to land use and the LGBTQ community.

Miller said he's looking to make his party "relevant again" during his roughly nine-month term, noting that it has been "apathetic" in the past. In the future, he said, the party needs to work to represent the entire county and not just the "far right."

"As far as changing the direction of the party, [it] is really just to re-engage with our communities as a whole," he said, indicating environmental communities and people of color.

Robinson, the party's communication director since late July, also noted that some people view the Republican Party as unfriendly toward the gay community.

"I said, you can own your own business, you can run for office - I do not think there's a better time on this planet in history to be gay than right now," Robinson said, citing his recent response to his neighbors when they expressed beliefs about an intolerant GOP.

But what about the high rate of suicide among the LGBTQ community? they countered.

"So then I walked through and I said, 'I actually think it has more to do with the lifestyle that the gays are leading that they refuse to have any scrutiny with,'" said Robinson, who is gay.

Robinson told The Tribune that while many people attribute the high suicide rate to the culture of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or to Utah's high altitude, that may not capture the full story. He said he knows people in the community who have had "over 2,000 sex partners" and said he thinks that could be at the root of "some of the self-loathing to the point of suicide."

"You talk to some of these people that have had grundles of sex partners and the self-loathing and basically the unhappiness and the self-hatred level is tremendously high," he said, noting that they may turn to sex to fill a hole left by a lack of acceptance in Utah. "The gay community really needs to start having some conversations within their community, saying how our lifestyle affects our mental health."

Utah's youth powder rate has grown at an alarming pace , according to recent studies conducted by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The state's suicide rate among young adults ages 10 to 17 had more than doubled from 2011 to 2015, growing at an annual clip nearly four times faster than the national average.

In all, 150 youths died by suicide over the five-year period, and it's thought that LGBTQ youth are at a higher risk.

Troy Williams, executive director of Equality Utah, pushes back on Robinson's comments about the suicide rates, saying his theory is based on "old, tired stereotypes and tropes" that members of the LGBTQ community are promiscuous. He also noted that the suicide problem is most prevalent among youth, many of whom have probably never had a sex partner.

"Condemning who and how we love is a strange way to build a bridge between the Republican Party and the LGBTQ community," Williams said. "Mr. Robinson's rhetorical is deeply irresponsible and unbecoming of a leader in a political party in the state of Utah. "

At the meeting with The Salt Lake Tribune, Miller said high sufficiency rates are an example of one of the "internal issues" in a community that the party wants to have dialogue with. But he told the newspaper later that he does not need to agree with Robinson's stance that a multitude of partners may contribute to high rates of suicide, noting that he does not have enough information on that particular issue.

As far as his stance on the LGBTQ community, Miller told The Tribune that although he would likely "catch some grief" from hard-right Republicans, he thinks that allowing members of the LGBTQ community to "live their life the way they deem fit" is a fundamental tenet of the Constitution.

Robinson also said in the meeting that he thinks issues around the PrEP pill, a daily preventive strategy for those at risk of contracting HIV, need more attention as a factor for the rise of STDs in the LGBTQ community and also to the rise of mental- health issues.

He said the gay community "went to the county health department and said, 'Look, if you love the gays, then you need to give us and all of our people this medicine for free.' And so the county's like, 'Yes, we love the gays,' so they start giving them all this medicine. "

Then, he said, members of the LGBTQ community began having unprotected sex like "bunny rabbits" at monthly "sex parties" because they were unaware that the pill did not prevent STDs.

Lynn Beltran, the STD and HIV epidemiology supervisor at the Salt Lake County Health Department, called Robinson's claims "wildly inaccurate."

Although she noted that Salt Lake County did work with a member of the LGBTQ community on PrEP outreach, she said it has never given out free pills - and that the county's STD clinic is not even able to prescribe the medication.

She agreed that there had been a national lack of education on PrEP that may lead more people to engage in unprotected sex.

Robinson said he relayed the information from the health department as he understood it and that there may have been some mischaracterization in his conversation with the county.

But Williams said Robinson's statements are a misguided way to reach the group the county Republican party is looking to engage with.

"He is mischaracterizing and spreading misinformation about our community," Williams said. "And if he truly wants to help the Republican party open up their doors to actually invite the LGBTQ community in, he needs to stop this salacious and egregious misinformation."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: gay; gays; gaystats; homosexual; homosexualagenda; lgbtqjudenrein; lgtb; perverts; pushingperversion; suicide
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To: gaijin

A large portion of the lesbian side matches them.


21 posted on 08/21/2018 6:00:16 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: Ennis85

My Gf is a registered nurse here in Hollywood. Tells me that the entire AIDS/HIV section at 3 of the most well-known hospitals here are ALL full of faggots. Not kids, not straight people...ass munchers everyone of them.


22 posted on 08/21/2018 6:01:20 PM PDT by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: onyx
[THEY DIDN’T LEARN FROM AIDS?]



Gov't conspiracy. Saw Frank Zappa say so on TV. Well, he suggested it came from "a government lab". Meanwhile, this is "progress".

[Psalm 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.]


23 posted on 08/21/2018 6:04:12 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Ennis85

Its a mental disorder... of course they have higher suicide rates.. doesn’t matter if they are in a society that is accepting or not... its a mental disorder, period.


24 posted on 08/21/2018 6:04:37 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Ennis85

they are perpetually unhappy people because they are messed up and know it, and no amount of external validation fixes that.


25 posted on 08/21/2018 6:07:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: mylife

They chose lust instead of love. Lust is about the self and love is about the other. The ends of each path are so divergent yet they demand that the outcome be the same.


26 posted on 08/21/2018 6:09:43 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: hal ogen

Mental illness contributes to too many partners and suicide and abuse and....


27 posted on 08/21/2018 6:11:13 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Ennis85
Do too many sex partners contribute to high suicide rates in the LGBTQ community?

Yeah, one.

28 posted on 08/21/2018 6:11:38 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Ennis85

The mental health and emotional problems that these people have contribute to both the STD and suicide rate.

Correlation of STD and suicide is not causation. They don’t cause each other; a single issue (mental health) causes them both.

We are about as likely to find unicorn horns as we are to find logic coming from the advocates for the sexually confused.


29 posted on 08/21/2018 6:16:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Ennis85
Do too many sex partners contribute to high suicide rates in the LGBTQ community?

No. Those in the LGBTQ community, such as it is, are by definition mentally unstable. Ergo...

30 posted on 08/21/2018 6:16:53 PM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Ennis85
do they fall prey to the dick stacking test?
31 posted on 08/21/2018 6:20:03 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Bell Bouy II; All

Two dozen cited studies regarding homosexuality causing increased health risks including mental illness and increased suicides.

http://www.f2a.org/images/RISKS_TO_HOMOSEXUAL_BEHAVIOR_final.pdf


32 posted on 08/21/2018 6:23:01 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: madprof98

“who and how we love” There are a few definitions of “love” in the Bible. Rest assured the author is not using the correct definition here and is blithely ignorant of the correct one.


33 posted on 08/21/2018 6:23:28 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Ennis85

Promiscuity leads to death when the spread of bacteria (or viruses) gets out of hand. People should think twice about routinely sharing their body’s biomes. In the bathhouse days, men could share fluids with dozens a night. Reading about AIDS patient zero, he barely had time to serve the drinks on his flights. He did a lot of damage. He wasn’t alone.


34 posted on 08/21/2018 6:23:30 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: MarchonDC09122009

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35 posted on 08/21/2018 6:29:38 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Thats more like it vs blanket statements.

Good job


36 posted on 08/21/2018 6:31:55 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: max americana

were you not banned for you candor


37 posted on 08/21/2018 6:32:58 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Pretty interested in this stuff I d say.

One ref was fine for me but thanks


38 posted on 08/21/2018 6:35:04 PM PDT by Bell Bouy II
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To: miss marmelstein

“Do too many sex partners contribute to high suicide rates in the LGBTQ community?”

We hope so.


39 posted on 08/21/2018 6:36:08 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Ennis85

Study Suggests That Women Absorb DNA From Every Man They’ve Ever Slept With
https://www.yourtango.com/2017304209/new-study-suggests-women-absorb-dna-every-man-theyve-ever-had-sex


40 posted on 08/21/2018 6:45:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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