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Instructor tries to quarantine gun owners in back of class
Campus Reform ^ | Frances Floresca

Posted on 08/26/2018 9:00:31 AM PDT by gattaca

A teaching assistant at the University of Utah tried to create a “Second Amendment zone” in a classroom, forcing students who legally carry to stand in a tiny, taped-off area during class.

Upon being alerted to the situation, the university promptly overruled the instructor and assigned them to non-teaching duties for the duration of the semester.

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“Concealed carry is protected under your second amendment rights! However, because the University of Utah reserves the right to restrict elements of the first amendment on campus to specifically sanctioned ‘free speech zones’ I am reserving the right to restrict elements of the second amendment in my own classroom,” the professor wrote in a “weapons policy” provided to students.

“If you feel that it is somehow at all appropriate to bring a gun to class (hint: it is not—this is absurd, antisocial, and frightening behavior), you are restricted to spending your time in class in my ‘second amendment zone’ a 3x3 taped square on the floor in the very back of the classroom, that will be shared with all other gun carriers,” the policy elaborates. “This zone also does not include a desk, because desks are reserved for students who respect the personal and psychological safety of their classmates and instructor.”

Utah State Representative Karianne Lisonbee shared the document after a student provided her the classroom policy file, remarking in the post that she is “livid” about the situation.

“A University of Utah Professor doesn't understand the Bill of Rights and University policy on free speech - which is disturbing enough,” Lisonbee wrote. “But even more egregious, she is seeking to break state law and deprive students of their rights.”

According to university policy and Utah law, students have the right to carry on campus as long as they have a permit or license to carry a gun.

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A spokesperson for the University of Utah provided Campus Reform with the following statement indicating that the policy has been removed from the syllabus:

“University of Utah officials recently learned that a graduate teaching assistant included a statement in an undergraduate course syllabus that violated both state law and university policy. The statement has been removed from the syllabus and students in the class have been alerted to the error,” the university explained.

“The graduate student instructor has apologized and has received additional training about the university's policies,” the statement added, noting that the student instructor “will not teach this semester and will instead have other assignments.”

“The approval of course syllabuses is handled by individual departments, and syllabuses are expected to comply with all university policies,” the spokesperson concluded.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alreadyposted; banglist; nra; secondamendment; uofutah; utah
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1 posted on 08/26/2018 9:00:31 AM PDT by gattaca
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““The graduate student instructor has apologized and has received additional training about the university’s policies,” the statement added, noting that the student instructor “will not teach this semester and will instead have other assignments.””

Name him/her and tell us where he/she is from. My bet is we’re talking about a foreign student here.


2 posted on 08/26/2018 9:05:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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No name, no face pic of this ‘teacher’?
Maybe they are protecting her privacy because she’s “just” a Grad. School Assistant, and doesn’t know any better.


3 posted on 08/26/2018 9:06:18 AM PDT by lee martell (AT)
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To: gattaca

The instructor needs to face criminal civil rights charges.

18 USC 241, 18 USC 242, and possibly 18 USC 245 and 42 USC 14141.

It is time to use the law to shut down these Communists on the same basis, for the same reasons, and using the same laws that shut down the KKK.


4 posted on 08/26/2018 9:06:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: gattaca
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And somehow you can always count on them being the late night game in the fall...

5 posted on 08/26/2018 9:09:12 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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I don’t know, the back of the class is usually higher for a better tactical view and superior situational awareness...


6 posted on 08/26/2018 9:09:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Expel her. Let her go to UCLA where she belongs.


7 posted on 08/26/2018 9:10:34 AM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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Other than the person ‘in charge’ it is NO ONES business whether I carry or not.

(I exempt the ‘person in charge’ (based on how often one frequents the place) because if the need arises that I have to defend mine and YOUR rights, someone ‘in charge’ should know that you are on his side).

My take on it is “It is called CONCEALED CARRY for a reason”.


8 posted on 08/26/2018 9:13:04 AM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)""Just because I keep saying WOW doesn't mean you are great!!")
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To: gattaca

The f*ckheads want violent criminals to have guns, but want normal, non-violent people thrown in jail for possessing one.


9 posted on 08/26/2018 9:13:33 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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I haven’t heard (read) the assistant’s name yet, but I bet that it is hyphenated.


10 posted on 08/26/2018 9:17:28 AM PDT by matthew fuller (How many of today's voters have ever seen a half-dollar coin (or silver dollar)?)
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The graduate student instructor has apologized and has received additional training about the university’s policies,”

Screw the policies. And the apologies. Don’t let the instructor back on campus until they can recite the US Constitution from memory.


11 posted on 08/26/2018 9:20:56 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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To: gattaca

The left ushers in a fulsome, widespread penchant for litigation among the public, then rushes to legally insulate themselves from the effects:

Specious claims of rape aside, lawsuits of very many types outside the Ivory Tower have a really hard time, when applied to campus matters.

WHY should schools so be so utterly different..?

They abhor “slavery by companies, who USE our students”, then enslave those very same students with unpayable student loans after arming them with degrees which mean NOTHING.

USURY.

There needs to be NO fed loans for students pursuing meaningless degrees. Yes, there should be a LIST of degrees not qualifying for such loans.


12 posted on 08/26/2018 9:23:50 AM PDT by gaijin
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Remember, you know all the students are carrying concealed afks, that is according to CNN

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/15/cnn-tweets-rifles-and-shotguns-can-be-carried-concealed/


13 posted on 08/26/2018 9:33:56 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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(s)what if the inanimate object self identifies a a butterfyly and is in transition from a concealed arm?(/s)


14 posted on 08/26/2018 9:36:20 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.tand http://www.house.gov)
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“I am reserving the right to restrict elements of the second amendment in my own classroom,” the professor wrote in a “weapons policy” provided to students.”

Except, professor Moron, it is NOT your classroom and you have ZERO authority relegating rights.

GTFO of the country. Go teach in Red China where you belong.


15 posted on 08/26/2018 9:37:14 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: gattaca

I like to position myself with a clear field of fire and a view of all portals.


16 posted on 08/26/2018 9:37:58 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: gattaca

The back of the room is often elevated, too.


17 posted on 08/26/2018 9:39:39 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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Were I in this dipwad’s class, I would have ignored that instruction, and sat anywhere I damned-well pleased. Concealed means exactly that, and I’m announcing to no one that I’m carrying.


18 posted on 08/26/2018 9:41:31 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: gattaca

How would she know whose carrying? I wouldnt tell anyone.


19 posted on 08/26/2018 10:01:20 AM PDT by Husker24
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I have checked a dozen articles without finding the name of this Graduate Student Teaching Assistant. Many do refer to the assistant as a Professor, which is wrong and many do refer to her with the feminine pronoun.

She did not make them sit at the back of the class, but instead had them standing in a 3 x 3 taped off area at the back of the room with no desk as she said their actions kept them from deserving a desk or writing surface.

Not only has the course outline be cleaned of her crap but she is not teaching this semester and had to issue an apology to the students involved.

I to think she should have her name memorialized as if she benefits from academic idiocy and is awarded an advanced degree this shitty behavior should follow her for her job attempts. Scum. Pure scum. Ready for 1925 Moscow.


20 posted on 08/26/2018 10:02:24 AM PDT by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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