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California lawmakers vote to delay school start times to allow students to get more sleep
The Hill ^ | 9/01/18 | John Bowden

Posted on 09/01/2018 7:41:23 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Do this. Teenagers biologically cannot get to sleep before near midnight. Allow them to get sleep that is necessary for health. I am so lucky that my son is in a special needs high school that starts at 8:30. If they recognize that kids with neuro differences need sleep, why not EVERY kid?


41 posted on 09/01/2018 11:34:02 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: raiderboy

California law makers sleep all day!!


Well. They have to. They are screwing lobbyists til late the night before.


42 posted on 09/01/2018 11:35:32 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: realcleanguy

Same here. Same time and distance. Taylor Elementary School, Norfolk, VA. 5th grade. Fall 1966. At my grandparent’s apartment waiting for our new house in Springfield, VA to be built.


43 posted on 09/02/2018 12:45:30 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Telepathic Intruder

You left out the snow and walking ten miles each way uphill to school


44 posted on 09/02/2018 2:33:30 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: Libloather

Very stupid. All they have to do is go to bed earlier! CA should just form a separate country.


45 posted on 09/02/2018 3:44:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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To: Libloather

And then everyone will stay up later and eventually school wpon’t start until noon and get out after dark....give it a few decades and it run around the clock to where it is now...


46 posted on 09/02/2018 4:11:44 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: Libloather

Why don’t they just add in a naptime for an hour after lunch? That would let all the kids get more sleep.. And to compensate, we have to add time, which is nice because that helps working parents who can’t pick their kids up at 1500! School day is now 08-1700. Bam. Problems solved.


47 posted on 09/02/2018 4:37:45 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: Libloather

When I was in school and when our kids were in school, it started at 8:20.


48 posted on 09/02/2018 5:26:57 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Libloather

Families begin their days early and the delay will upset family
schedules. Many work 12 hour shifts and need to get their kids off early.

The law is antifamily. Of course, leftists are always antifamily


49 posted on 09/02/2018 5:33:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12) Muller..... conspiracy to over throw the government)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

and walk to school barefoot, in the snow, uphill, both ways?


50 posted on 09/02/2018 6:20:17 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: TexasGator

Yes, uphill to school and uphill back home again, every day. Barefoot in snow, even in the summer, because we didn’t have global warming back then.


51 posted on 09/02/2018 7:27:07 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Libloather

Lawmakers in California are like Chicago law makers highest bidder always wins.


52 posted on 09/02/2018 8:19:45 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: EinNYC

“Hate to burst the California idiots’ bubble, but I had many students whose programs didn’t start until NOON be late to their first, even their second classes.”

From 6-8th grade i went to a private jewish school. A yeshiva. I do not recall exactly what time in the morning classes started. I think sometime around 8am. But the schedule was we had prayer and religious instruction up until lunch at 12pm. Lunch ended at 1pm. After lunch we had our other usual classes (history, science, math, english) until 3:30pm. There was one kid in my class who NEVER came in the mornings for the religious instruction class nor for lunch. He always came after lunch to attend only the afternoon classes. I envied him greatly. To not have to show up for school until 1pm and get to go home only 2 and a half hours later. :-)

He wasnt a troublemaker or a bad student. Matter of fact he was a good student. I once asked him why he never came in the mornings like the rest of us and only for the afternoon classes. He told me that he could never bear to sit still all those hours in the morning. I’m assuming he had some sort of mental and/or physical handicap for which the school allowed him to come only in the afternoons.


53 posted on 09/02/2018 8:44:46 AM PDT by lowbridge
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They could go back to neighborhood schools so kids can walk to school instead of getting up two hours early to drive to the other side of the city.

That is so true. These soulless suburbs have no central gathering place, and people are isolated from one another. Every new development of a given size should have a mandated village hub developed with it, with a shared auditorium, some sports lots and a daycare-nursery-kindergarten, a 1-5 school and a 6-8 school, with two or three communities sharing a high school In the hub there should be an utility building with a recycling drop-off and storage for the community groundskeepers' tools; a single police officer with a desk and car; a drive-thru limited post office/package receiver; a very limited convenience store (break, milk, eggs, water, toilet paper, canned soup, first aid and no snacks); and a guardhouse concierge with local info who can schedule group amenities like a weekly pick up of several orders from Home Depot or dry cleaners, a community garden plot, and a transportation depot for hired vehicles or public buses.

We have a hub with many of these things, but the developer made the proportion of housing-to-hub three or four times too large and out of scale. He charged exorbitant rents for the strip mall—now half the stores either sit empty or the greedy devloper gets desperate and finally lowers the rent for the first downscale vendor who comes around, like a foreign-language nail salon that soon becomes a drug depot. The hub is surrounded by steep hills and isn't easily walkable, even with a portable grocery cart. And of course, the Democrats immediately screamed for low-income housing to be crammed into the villages, busing in low-income children and shoving Section 8's into any rentals, so the grand plan of the 90s went downhill within a decade; and now most of these ideas of living with shared amenities among people of similar means and lifestyles have become effectively illegal, i.e. "discriminatory."

The globalists' transformed USA no longer has freedom of association; and smallholder who excels financially—but not quite enough—will be punished by having to support welfare and immigrant hordes. Therefore the vice-president class moves farther out with bigger grounds around their McMansions, necessitating the commute, time stress, obesity and pollution. So weaponized PC has really killed walkability all over the country. Even the local grocery doesn't hire local people -- everything is done in the abstract, online, so workers criss-cross commute from distances. 'Tisn't green.

54 posted on 09/02/2018 9:21:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Interrupt Obama and reporters are racist; interrupt Trump and they're heroes. --Mark Levin)
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To: Libloather

This is one thing california is doing that i can support. I recall all too well my grade school days in the late 1970s-early 80s. I do not recall the exact time i had to be at school in the morning, but it had to be at around 8am. Which meant i had to get up earlier than that to get ready for school.

Every evening my mother sent me to bed at a reasonable hour (which i hated). But no matter how much sleep i got, i could never get up in time to get to school. My mother always had to prematurely wake me up each and every morning. I always left the house for school still feeling tired and needing more sleep. Scheduling school to start a little later isnt going to hurt the kids education one bit. As a matter of fact, they should delay the start of school morning a even more later than 8:30. Like 9 or 10 am.


55 posted on 09/02/2018 9:42:12 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: DoughtyOne

School 4 days a week, year round, 12 hours a day, 7am to 7pm with seasonal 3 week breaks and 13 national holidays. Bring back vocational / trade classes in junior high and high school. Graduates thus have at least 4 years experience when they graduate in the job markets.

Toss the bell curve and reward students that maintain a 3.0 or better grade average with a 2 year associate degree scholarship.

Oh BTW arm the staff and vetted volunteer mentors......


56 posted on 09/02/2018 12:12:49 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: arthurus

We started at 8 AM & went to 3:30 or 4 PM. Then there was band practice or sports, etc.

I lived on a dairy farm. ALL chores had to be done before we ate breakfast & then got ready for school. We were milking around 40 Holstein cows, had sheep, pigs, chickens, and we boarded 7 horses for a local Doctor.

It was plenty dark when we got up every day in the winter, and dark when we got done with milking and feeding all animals.

We managed to get to school on time & to do our classes & homework. I had an average of 93 ++ after 4 years in high school.


57 posted on 09/02/2018 4:41:19 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Yaelle

“Teenagers biologically cannot get to sleep before near midnight.”

Bunk.


58 posted on 09/02/2018 5:24:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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